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Prince Harry loses and wins

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maddyone Sat 16-Dec-23 10:19:07

So in the last week Prince Harry has been ordered to pay court costs of £50,000 and within a few days, been awarded damages of around £130,000.
Interesting times indeed.

Rosie51 Wed 20-Dec-23 11:39:48

Glorianny still avoiding explaining how William's circumcision is pertinent to Harry's life story? Or will you finally admit that it was gratuitous and unnecessary to publicise it, breaching his right to privacy?

lemsip this is not a discussion about the health benefits or otherwise of circumcision, but the appropriateness of disclosing such private details about another person. Can you not understand?

Glorianny Wed 20-Dec-23 13:21:36

It was Harry's life story not mine. If I was writing mine I'd put into it anything I wanted, I accord him the same right,
If you were writing yours would you miss things out, or put in what you wanted?

Lexisgranny Wed 20-Dec-23 13:28:11

Personally I would doubt the integrity of anyone who stooped so low as to reveal another person’s intimate medical details.
But there again, standards vary.

Sparklefizz Wed 20-Dec-23 14:06:46

Glorianny

It was Harry's life story not mine. If I was writing mine I'd put into it anything I wanted, I accord him the same right,
If you were writing yours would you miss things out, or put in what you wanted?

Glorianny If I was writing mine I'd put into it anything I wanted
Ok, then expect to be sued!!

maddyone Wed 20-Dec-23 14:10:43

Glorianny

It was Harry's life story not mine. If I was writing mine I'd put into it anything I wanted, I accord him the same right,
If you were writing yours would you miss things out, or put in what you wanted?

Yes Glorianny, you’re right, it was Harry’s life story. So why was he writing William’s life story?

Rosie51 Wed 20-Dec-23 15:31:12

Glorianny

It was Harry's life story not mine. If I was writing mine I'd put into it anything I wanted, I accord him the same right,
If you were writing yours would you miss things out, or put in what you wanted?

Well I certainly wouldn't feel the need to publicise a medical procedure my brother went through, that I only knew about because of my privileged family connection. I would mention having a brother and some of our publicly known shared experiences.

I wonder how Harry would have felt if William released details of Archie's birth, the one they were desperate to micro manage publicity wise. I'd have expected cries of breach of privacy from the Sussexes if that had happened.

Glorianny Wed 20-Dec-23 16:53:09

Rosie51

Glorianny

It was Harry's life story not mine. If I was writing mine I'd put into it anything I wanted, I accord him the same right,
If you were writing yours would you miss things out, or put in what you wanted?

Well I certainly wouldn't feel the need to publicise a medical procedure my brother went through, that I only knew about because of my privileged family connection. I would mention having a brother and some of our publicly known shared experiences.

I wonder how Harry would have felt if William released details of Archie's birth, the one they were desperate to micro manage publicity wise. I'd have expected cries of breach of privacy from the Sussexes if that had happened.

Was William there when Archie was born? I didn't know that.

maddyone Wed 20-Dec-23 16:56:16

Was Harry there when William’s circumcision was done?

Rosie51 Wed 20-Dec-23 16:56:43

Glorianny

Rosie51

Glorianny

It was Harry's life story not mine. If I was writing mine I'd put into it anything I wanted, I accord him the same right,
If you were writing yours would you miss things out, or put in what you wanted?

Well I certainly wouldn't feel the need to publicise a medical procedure my brother went through, that I only knew about because of my privileged family connection. I would mention having a brother and some of our publicly known shared experiences.

I wonder how Harry would have felt if William released details of Archie's birth, the one they were desperate to micro manage publicity wise. I'd have expected cries of breach of privacy from the Sussexes if that had happened.

Was William there when Archie was born? I didn't know that.

You think Harry was present at William's circumcision? How very strange. One of my sons needed a medical circumcision, I wasn't present in the operating theatre when it happened.

Presumably the Sussexes told the family she was in labour and that Archie had been born. The public announcement was somewhat delayed.

Siope Wed 20-Dec-23 19:36:15

This was a judgement that has implications, and interesting discussion points, about so many facets of how the media , its ethics, its governance, its rights and responsibilities… and we have thread that is now fixated on a nob’s knob. Sheesh.

Casdon Wed 20-Dec-23 20:08:08

Siope

This was a judgement that has implications, and interesting discussion points, about so many facets of how the media , its ethics, its governance, its rights and responsibilities… and we have thread that is now fixated on a nob’s knob. Sheesh.

I’ve tried several times but now given up Siope.

Glorianny Wed 20-Dec-23 23:13:12

Sorry Siope and Casdon.
This is really another blow against the government, who had happily abandoned the second part of Leveson, as well as against the press. There hasn't been a great deal made of it in the news though.

nanna8 Thu 21-Dec-23 02:18:11

Nob’s knob haha😹

vegansrock Thu 21-Dec-23 03:40:37

We all knew it would descend into an anti Harry bitchfest.

DrWatson Thu 21-Dec-23 03:56:54

For MaddyOne (& quite a few more) -- Morgan wasn't called to give evidence, but the Mirror defence team DID NOT CALL HIM EITHER.

He STILL refuses to admit his involvement in the Mirror phone hacking scandal, when he was editor, even though the owner acknowledged it years ago, and they've paid out zillions in damages. So odd that a guy who claims to be shrewd, all-knowing and so very clever would never wonder how those juicy stories kept appearing? [Oh, and he got caught falsifying those Army pictures too, lovely chap that quite a few still want to support?]

DrWatson Thu 21-Dec-23 04:07:07

For EazyBee and MaddyOne - and more- whilst sounding off about Harry, who knows what trauma he had when losing his mother? And he has at least done some good, here and there, in the Forces, and his Invictus venture.

Morgan however is just a disgusting arrogant self-promoter, and it beggars belief that he didn't know about hacking, and to that end, PLEASE DO READ this piece :- bylinetimes.com/2020/01/21/piers-morgan-and-phone-hacking-what-even-he-cant-deny/ [maybe someone had shown the judge this piece?!]

Iam64 Thu 21-Dec-23 08:44:39

Dr Watson - 👍🏻

Glory, Siope, Casdon , vegansrock, - thanks for trying to keep some focus on the law. Any mention of H or M really winds those sone posters up.

Anniebach Thu 21-Dec-23 09:30:06

Some posters need to stop criticising other posters,

Siope Thu 21-Dec-23 09:45:59

Byline Times has done some sterling work this year, despite all sorts of legal threats.

I think the lack of reporting elsewhere on this case isn’t surprising, but does reinforce the points that have been made, here and elsewhere, about the control of information to the public.

Glorianny Thu 21-Dec-23 10:53:37

I sometimes think I've fallen down the rabbit hole. An estranged member of the RF bringing into the open something the government were happy to leave buried. Suppose Harry hadn't brought this case would it be OK then that phone hacking became just something we accepted the press did and no one was really responsible?

maddyone Thu 21-Dec-23 10:55:37

Elton John and others brought the case too.

Anniebach Thu 21-Dec-23 11:22:59

Number given of those suing is 100 ,

Mollygo Thu 21-Dec-23 11:44:22

??? Rabbit hole?
Who has said on this thread that phone hacking isn’t wrong? Did I miss it? Could you point me to the post?

Anniebach Thu 21-Dec-23 11:53:42

Seems it’s all due to Harry who, as we have been reminded, suffered trauma ,

Praise of Harry is permitted on this thread !

Casdon Thu 21-Dec-23 12:19:04

Harry’s case was selected as one of four test cases, on behalf of the hundred others, and was the first to be heard. That’s why it’s important, it’s a landmark victory. It’s all explained in the Reuters article I posted earlier. Other misdemeanours are irrelevant to this case, which was heard on the basis of the evidence presented specifically about incidences f phone hacking.