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Asylum seekers waiting 12 months for a decision to remain are allowed to apply for work

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GrannyGravy13 Sun 21-Jan-24 11:37:35

As care work is on the approved list I wonder what checks are done on those entering this work?

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 21-Jan-24 11:44:00

Worrying.

Primrose53 Sun 21-Jan-24 11:45:50

Quite. Stupid decision. I wouldn’t have wanted just anybody looking after my elderly parents. No paperwork or passport, no job. Simple as that.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 21-Jan-24 12:04:18

Desperation more like with a looming election.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 21-Jan-24 12:07:59

Whitewavemark2

Desperation more like with a looming election.

This dates back to Dec 2022, I found it by accident looking for something else.

Apparently those that take up work receive 80% of the going salary and keep their free board and daily allowance I am trying to find a government source to verify this.

Grantanow Mon 22-Jan-24 09:04:24

Refugees have made an enormous contribution to this country in the past through their work.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 22-Jan-24 09:10:44

Grantanow

Refugees have made an enormous contribution to this country in the past through their work.

I am not disputing that.

I am concerned that asylum seekers are currently working in the care sector before all official checks and documentation have been completed.

Especially after the string of cases elderly patients and those with forms of dementia being abused by the very people there to care for them.

yggdrasil Mon 22-Jan-24 09:13:56

about time too. The Home Office should get its act together

MaizieD Mon 22-Jan-24 09:25:07

Especially after the string of cases elderly patients and those with forms of dementia being abused by the very people there to care for them.

Oh. Were all these abusers asylum seekers, GG13?

If they weren't that seems to me to be a very irresponsible statement.

maddyone Mon 22-Jan-24 09:41:26

I’m not sure what I think about this. On the one hand, it’s good for people to work rather than sit around with nothing to do, but on the other hand, it’s not good for unchecked people to work with vulnerable people, such as those in care homes. Maybe it would be more in the roles of cleaner or porter. I’m unsure about it.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 22-Jan-24 09:58:00

MaizieD

^Especially after the string of cases elderly patients and those with forms of dementia being abused by the very people there to care for them.^

Oh. Were all these abusers asylum seekers, GG13?

If they weren't that seems to me to be a very irresponsible statement.

Not irresponsible at all MaizieD having had elderly relatives in care homes, I would want any of those caring for them to have been thoroughly checked.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 22-Jan-24 09:59:44

Exactly how I feel maddyone surely there are other jobs on the list available to them.

Good they are being offered work, as opposed to hanging around all day.

MaizieD Mon 22-Jan-24 10:09:23

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD

Especially after the string of cases elderly patients and those with forms of dementia being abused by the very people there to care for them.

Oh. Were all these abusers asylum seekers, GG13?

If they weren't that seems to me to be a very irresponsible statement.

Not irresponsible at all MaizieD having had elderly relatives in care homes, I would want any of those caring for them to have been thoroughly checked.

Were they cared for by asylum seekers, GG13?. An answer to that question would be appreciated.

Your original post gives the impression that asylum seekers are abusers. Don't you think that they attract enough demonisation without people making insinuations which may have no foundation in fact.
I say 'may' because, until you answer my question I don't know what is fact and what isn't.

Marthjolly1 Mon 22-Jan-24 10:10:50

There are many other jobs on the list. I don't think it mentioned carework as as the only option. Asylum seekers come from many walks of life and varied fields of expertise. I have worked in the care profession in England and Scotland, quite a few of own national carers should be no where near a care home

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 22-Jan-24 10:14:28

The Shortage Occupation List doesn’t contain unskilled jobs.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/skilled-worker-visa-shortage-occupations/skilled-worker-visa-shortage-occupations
Asylum seekers can only apply for jobs which are on this list. They can also undertake voluntary work outside the jobs on the list.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 22-Jan-24 10:14:54

MaizieD you are twisting my posts.

My point and I do happen to think it is both relevant and extremely important, is that people waiting more than twelve months who have not had their claims approved have by this very definition not been identified, verified that they are innocent of misdemeanours in their place of birth, unable to be DBS checked

It could result in totally unsuitable and unchecked people working in the care sector.

Casdon Mon 22-Jan-24 10:18:59

Care organisations are unable to appoint anybody who comes into contact with cared for people without a DBS check.

foxie48 Mon 22-Jan-24 10:21:22

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD you are twisting my posts.

My point and I do happen to think it is both relevant and extremely important, is that people waiting more than twelve months who have not had their claims approved have by this very definition not been identified, verified that they are innocent of misdemeanours in their place of birth, unable to be DBS checked

It could result in totally unsuitable and unchecked people working in the care sector.

Why on earth do you assume that they have not been properly checked? There is absolutely nothing to suggest that asylum seekers given leave to work in the care sector are in any way unsuitable. Their suitability for work and the granting of asylum are two completely different things and are independent of each other.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 22-Jan-24 10:27:43

foxie48 read the OP please.

These are asylum seekers who have been awaiting their decision to stay or be deported for over 12 months, and being allowed to work before their claims are processed.

I have absolutely no problem with asylum seekers working anywhere appropriate to their skill set once all of the paperwork is completed and their leave to stay claim approved and given.

petra Mon 22-Jan-24 10:28:49

GrannyGravy
This also happened in 2022.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-67622479#

My daughter works in a care home ( not a carer) miss understanding is a common.

petra Mon 22-Jan-24 10:37:41

Foxie48
It’s difficult or nye on impossible to check someone if, they have no documentation, or ( most probably) they come from a country with a poor IT system.

MaizieD Mon 22-Jan-24 10:46:23

Look at your original words GG13

I am concerned that asylum seekers are currently working in the care sector before all official checks and documentation have been completed.

Especially after the string of cases elderly patients and those with forms of dementia being abused by the very people there to care for them.

I think this is irresponsible because putting these two statements together could be taken to imply that the elderly have been abused by asylum seekers.

We know that so much that is posted on here is subject to misinterpretation, and that asylum seekers are demonised by many posters. Your post invites both of these things.

MaizieD Mon 22-Jan-24 10:49:11

P.S GG13. You don't even know for a fact that asylum seekers are working in the care sector. Just jumping to conclusions from an old list...

Whitewavemark2 Mon 22-Jan-24 11:26:50

Presumably anyone working in social care all have enhanced DBS checks carried out - required by law.

MaizieD Mon 22-Jan-24 11:38:07

Well, of course they will, Wwmk2. To assume anything else seems like scaremongering...