PenJK50
PenJK’s husband here.
Whitewave, I suggest you study the history of the Israel - Palestinian situation.
It has seen wars launched against Israel, all started by the Arabs, in 1948, 1967 and 1973, all aimed at driving the Jews into the sea. Israel won all these wars.
Land occupied in these wars would have been the subject of peace negotiations, all of which have failed when the leaders of the Palestinians refused to make peace. They have always wanted a one state solution without Jews in it. This is why land won, particularly that won by Israel in 1967, is under occupation.
That does not excuse the settlement policy of this Israeli government and the behaviour of some settlers against neighbouring Palestinians. This will change when there is a change of government in democratic Israel.
In between the wars against Israel, Palestinian terrorist groups have committed murderous attacks within Israel and have launched two ‘intifadas’.
Hamas has a charter describing its main aim as the destruction of Israel and murdering all Jews and the heinous attack of October 7th and their threat to repeat that attack over and over and over again tells you much of what we need to know about Hamas. Hiding and fighting deeply within the civilian population of Gaza adds to the knowledge of the terrible terrorist group, Hamas.
Some people argue that Israel’s response to the frenzied rapes, mutilation, murders and abductions of some 1400 people is disproportionate, but they fail to offer their ideas of what would be a proportionate response in the light of October 7th and the Hamas threats to repeat and repeat it. Realistically, Israel had little choice if it had to neutralise Hamas as a terrorist machine. The terrible casualties are the responsibility of Hamas, whose tunnels, rocket launch sites and ammunition stores are in and under the schools, hospitals and homes of Gaza.
Today, it is so difficult to see how there will ever be peace, but we have to hope that new leaders on both sides emerge at the same time, who are able and willing to make a peace that had it happened 75 years ago would have enabled the Palestinians to live in a prosperous and successful country.
I have seldom seen such a distortion of history. I wonder if you were educated in Israel. I know the Nakba isn't taught there because it gives the true basis of the history of the country.
But here's some accurate information. When the country of Israel was first established it was done by terrorism. Which fair enough we can forgive. However in 1948 the Israelis ejected Palestinians from land they had occupied for generations. The massacres, looting, and rapes which took place are internationally acknowledged The massacre and expulsion of Palestinian Arabs and destruction of villages began in December,[45] including massacres at Al-Khisas (18 December 1947),[46] and Balad al-Shaykh (31 December).[47] By March, between 70,000 and 100,000 Palestinians, mostly middle- and upper-class urban elites, were expelled or fled
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba#:~:text=The%20central%20facts%20of%20the,
The people now in Gaza are third and fourth generation refugees whose families were dispossessed by that action.
After the 1967 Israel occupied territories and began settling in them. Substantial efforts have been made to make Israel withdraw from these territories but they have never complied with any ruling.
The Occupied Territories and Gaza are regarded by most organisations as still being under occupation by Israel
The United Nations, Human Rights Watch and many other international bodies and NGOs continues to consider Israel to be the occupying power of the Gaza Strip as Israel controls the Gaza Strip's airspace and territorial waters as well as the movement of people or goods in or out of Gaza by air or sea
It is against International law for a country to continue to occupy territory it has gained in war.
The UN ruled Israel should return to the 1967 borders.
If your country is invaded and occupied are you entitled to fight back?
Israel has always refused to accept a two state solution
news.un.org/en/story/2024/01/1145807#:~:text=Israel's%20%E2%80%9Cclear%20and%20repeated%20rejection,
Israel’s “clear and repeated rejection” of the two-State solution “is unacceptable”, said UN Secretary-General António Guterres, adding that “this refusal, and the denial of the right to statehood to the Palestinian people, would indefinitely prolong a conflict that has become a major threat to global peace and security.
