It doesn't look as if Labour's lead is softening

🙂 there is always the thought that elections results rarely reflect the polls, and although it is difficult to imagine a Tory win, there have been instances where it has flipped or been very narrow at the end.

So definitely all to play for.

Mind you they must be a weird set of masochists who go out and vote for more of what we’ve had over the past few years - but there is no accounting for folk😄😄

MaizieD. RR’s speech today implied trickle up from the bottom sectors as opposed to the Truss non starter of trickle down from the top. Although isn’t that what we have at the moment?

Some facts and figures from RR would help a lot.

Can you explain in what way you think it would benefit the chances of the Labour Party being elected if she did that ronib, because I can’t? A wise party doesn’t display their cards on the table until the election date has been declared, surely.

The speech is here. www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE4lk_ol_lA

Always better to watch before commenting.

Casdon

Can you explain in what way you think it would benefit the chances of the Labour Party being elected if she did that ronib, because I can’t? A wise party doesn’t display their cards on the table until the election date has been declared, surely.

Indeed.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Casdon The left wing of the Labour Party doesn’t agree with RR that Uk corporation tax should remain at the lowest rate for G7 countries for the duration of a possible Labour government.
I think rather than floating ideas about, some substance and reason needs to be voiced. Otherwise just another gimmick … and there’s no shortage of that.

I’m interested to know if you think the other UK parties are more effective and/or more honest in their engagement with the electorate and business than Labour Siope, and if you think this is a British politics issue, or common in your wider experience?

Siope

DAR I realise you don’t know my background, so don’t mean to be patronising, but I confess to raising my eyebrows (and possibly even rolling my eyes) at your last post.

The other day I listened to Keir Starmer speaking to the Civic Society and saying that we need private industry, civil society and the state to work together.

I have spent 40+ years, in three countries, with a wide, wide range of governments, working on exactly this agenda. I could bore for any one of them on the topic, failures and successes, programmes, policy and implementation, economics and resources, reality rather than rhetoric. In fact, I have done, and some daft people have even published the results (which doesn’t mean anyone is daft enough to read them)

And I have massive concerns that Labour is failing to demonstrate that they understand the key barriers to meaningful and genuine engagement (let alone equitable partnerships) by many sections of civil society and the private sector (where they seem to be focusing all their attention on large institutions), let alone explaining how they will work to remove those barriers.

Congratulations on your "background". I am dure it has helped you form your views, just as mine has helped me for my views.

By the way, my name is DaisyAnneReturns but I am happy with Daisy.

sure!

siope I am sorry you felt unable to allow your incisive comment to stand and that you asked for it to be deleted. However as another poster has copied and pasted it, you might ask Gnet to remove that comment too?

Just guessing but I think it will be a close run election and Labour will probably win but not by as much as expected. Things change very suddenly and quickly during election time, it only takes a hint of a scandal to swing things. Dispassionately, neither candidate looks exactly inspiring. I would be very nervous. Tell you what, swap you for our Labour government! You’re most welcome to them!

You are just guessing nanna8. Nothing more - and from another country.

We are all just guessing though, from our individual knowledge bases and perspectives, DaisyAnneReturns, so nanna8 has as valid an opinion as the rest of us.

Of course nanna8 has an opinion, or "guess" as she called it Casdon. That is what I said.

However, there are facts and experts in the pre-election world and a knowledge of how our elections work. So when people offer their "guess" on a serious discussion thread, others can equally put a value on its validity.

Or are you telling us we may not?

No, I’m just saying that there’s no need to pick people up because you feel their guess/opinion is less informed than your own, that’s what kills threads.

DaisyAnneReturns

You are just guessing nanna8. Nothing more - and from another country.

That just is not worthy of you, DAR. I am actually shocked that you've said it. Why should being from another country be even mentioned?
We all comment on other countries too...

Well said, Casdon and Maizie. We are all guessing, and entitled to do so without being rudely put down.

I agree with nanna8. None of us can possibly know what will happen when people go to vote in the GE.
Many people keep quiet about the party they will vote for and won't take part in polls.

I think I withdraw my comment about politics if this is only meant for people who live in the UK. I hadn’t realised. Sorry Daisy Anne. You are always right, I forgot.

nanna8

I think I withdraw my comment about politics if this is only meant for people who live in the UK. I hadn’t realised. Sorry Daisy Anne. You are always right, I forgot.

Maybe the rest of us would like to see your posts about politics. Don't be put off by one poster.

Indeed. Just one poster.

nanna8

I think I withdraw my comment about politics if this is only meant for people who live in the UK. I hadn’t realised. Sorry Daisy Anne. You are always right, I forgot.

😄😄😄

I suspect Rachel Reeves sounds so wooden because she is suffering from Imposter Syndrome and feels particularly vulnerable speaking to a group of business leaders.

Rayner, on the other hand, doesn’t have a clue how far out of her depth she is, so although she truly is an imposter - over-promoted to a grotesque extent - she is blithely unaware of why that might be a problem for the country.

urmstongran I wonder if RR is in some way hearing impaired? I don’t think that RR is any more of an imposter than anyone else in politics just now.

I think the Civil Service will reign in Angela if she steps too much out of line.