Clapham acid attacker - asylum seeker convicted of sex offence but still granted asylum?

Iam64

Some comments are racist that’s for sure.

And how is it racist to want to defend your own country from invasion? In the past invasion was by military means but this is a slow drip drip drip of people from the rest of the world, some of whom may be criminals or terrorists. It only takes a few to cause terrible suffering by their actions, with our Police force further stretched by having to track and trace them.

Who thought it was even possible to bring in countless numbers of people from the rest of the world into a country the size of a pocket handkerchief? We cannot keep taking an endless flow of people. If you think we can then please explain how that works.

For those who say we need to import a workforce to run the NHS, just to remind you that for every 10,000 who arrive that's another 10,000 new NHS patients who also need medical care. It just won't work.

Freya5 you are exactly right

Most of the men arriving on boats are Muslim is it racist to mention the blooming obvious especially as we are a Christian country or have we become so woke and pc we dare not to.

Blair didn’t open the doors - the doors have been open since WW2. Swathes of northern mill towns imported families from Pakistan and Bangladesh in the 1950s to work in the textile factories, people from the Caribbean to work in transport and the NHS and so on. It has been the legacy of empire. The Tory bosses have benefitted from cheap labour over the years, not caring for the communities that have ,been affected, it’s the same story now. Why do you think immigration has soared under this present government and their feeble claim to be controlling the borders?

15:16CoolCoco

Rubbish, Blair opened the doors.

CoolCoco

Blair didn’t open the doors - the doors have been open since WW2. Swathes of northern mill towns imported families from Pakistan and Bangladesh in the 1950s to work in the textile factories, people from the Caribbean to work in transport and the NHS and so on. It has been the legacy of empire. The Tory bosses have benefitted from cheap labour over the years, not caring for the communities that have ,been affected, it’s the same story now. Why do you think immigration has soared under this present government and their feeble claim to be controlling the borders?

Blair opened a lot more doors. Things visibly changed from 1997 onwards. I remember my underage teenage daughter being chased in the town centre by Kosovans who had come here due to the war. I was shocked because this had never happened before.

Aveline

It's hard not to be racist given the circumstances of this case - and the many others involving Muslim men.

But discussing religions is not racist is it?

Race and ethnicity are not the same as someone's eligious beliefs.

Blair most definitely did open the doors and Mandelson has admitted as such. Blair has gone a long way towards wrecking this country but that’s a discussion that’s been done to death. I loathe the man and I helped vote him in!

Blair did it because an immigrant vote is usually a Labour vote.
This is why I have little doubt Labour will vascilate on this problem facing the UK.

It is clear it was a domestic abuse. The woman was described as vulnerable. I think race and religion have less to do with this

I hope the lady and her daughters can move on from this

I live a in a multi cultural area and we all seem to rub along fine so I really don't believe multi culturalism doesn't work. I think there are specific issues and areas of concern but I don't think it is everywhere and is down to extreme behaviours and beliefs (on many sides)

JaneJudge

It is clear it was a domestic abuse. The woman was described as vulnerable. I think race and religion have less to do with this

I hope the lady and her daughters can move on from this

I live a in a multi cultural area and we all seem to rub along fine so I really don't believe multi culturalism doesn't work. I think there are specific issues and areas of concern but I don't think it is everywhere and is down to extreme behaviours and beliefs (on many sides)

We're a multi-cultural family (and due to become more so we hope🤞) but all seem to be law-abiding and hardworking.

15:40JaneJudge

It is clear it was a domestic abuse. The woman was described as vulnerable. I think race and religion have less to do with this

I hope the lady and her daughters can move on from this

Are you for real have you read what happened to this poor lady and her children, she will probably end up blind and scared for life and have to undergo months even years of plastic surgery

CoolCoco
If you added up all the migrants who came from the Caribbean, Pakistan and Bangladesh it wouldn’t come even close to the numbers over the past 20 years.
Net migration from june 2022- 2023, 672,000.

I lived through WW2 and welcomed refugees and genuine asylum seekers. Today a lot of the latter are migrants seeking work. I sympathise with them but the UK can't accommodate whole nations. There are Afghans who helped our Forces still needing our help and being denied this. The acid-thrower was not one of them. He was an illegal immigrant, a criminal, and yet has been allowed to stay for quite a few years. I still believe we welcome genuine asylum-seekers but the problem is so many are not . Greedy lawyers should be disbarred for encouraging and abetting criminals knowing that they are criminals but thinking only of monetary gain. Sadly, not easy.

I am tempted to say the death penalty for ALL acid throwers.

It is horrific what has happened. I wasn't downplaying it at all. Domestic abuse and violence is a real threat to (mainly) women

I despair that these acid attacks have become a 'thing'

The mother and one child have 'life changing' injuries. Altogether 12 people were injured and needing hospital treatment in the attack.

I hope no-one is shielding him.

it looks like he has injured himself as well

Excellent.

JaneJudge

it looks like he has injured himself as well

I can't feel sorry.

I don't feel sorry for him either

JaneJudge It is clear it was a domestic abuse. The woman was described as vulnerable. I think race and religion have less to do with this
As far as we know race and religion were not relevant (we'll have to see) but the fact that he was an illegal immigrant who should not have been here at all, well that is relevant. If this had happened in some far away country it would be no less tragic, but if you bring the world into your country then you bring the problems of the world with them.

JaneJudge

it looks like he has injured himself as well.

Well he won’t be receiving help at any hospital that’s for sure, but it’s highly likely someone is helping him as he’s got what looks like a badly damaged eye so he’s in hiding somewhere.

I think we may invited the world into our country quite some time ago. As has been stated thousands of people ( for example) of Pakistani heritage were invited here to work in mills.

More recently thousands of Ukrainian and HK Chinese people were invited here.But I suppose somehow they don't use up space or resources.

Well said GSM, I so agree.

Chestnut

JaneJudge It is clear it was a domestic abuse. The woman was described as vulnerable. I think race and religion have less to do with this
As far as we know race and religion were not relevant (we'll have to see) but the fact that he was an illegal immigrant who should not have been here at all, well that is relevant. If this had happened in some far away country it would be no less tragic, but if you bring the world into your country then you bring the problems of the world with them.

He was not an illegal immigrant. He had asylum status. We may all believe he should not have been granted that. I’m one who believes strongly he should have been deported on conviction of 2 sexual offences - which he admitted. No doubt he was advised the evidence would have led to conviction and he would likely have faced a prison rather than suspended sentence if he’d insisted on a trial. These offences merited less than the 2 year prison sentence that would have ensured his appeal was rejected.
A judge theme running through this awful crime, is offences against women and children. Our Courts don’t sentence harshly enough despite the overwhelming evidence of harm caused.

but if you bring the world into your country then you bring the problems of the world with them. Like JaneJudge, I live in a multi cultural town, increasingly multi cultural as we are a City of Sanctuary with a growing population of Africans granted asylum for legal reasons and settling here. So far, so good as with our large Muslim community who are largely of Pakistani origin, their ancestors arriving in the 1950’s at the invitation of our government to use their established skills working in the cotton mills.