Clapham acid attacker - asylum seeker convicted of sex offence but still granted asylum?

icanhandthemback

No doubt this country has always had acid type attacks but it does seem that certain crimes seem far more vicious from certain parts of the world. It is just an impression I get but that might just be how it is reported.

"Women in countries around the world live with the threat of acid attacks. Globally, there are approximately 1,500 acid attacks a year1 , but it is a crime that often goes unreported for fear of reprisal."

"The greatest prevalence is in south Asian countries including India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, where acid remains inexpensive and freely available."

"Most survivors of acid attacks are women and girls. The most common reasons for attacks on women and girls are the refusal of marriage, the denial of sex, and the sexual rejection of men and boys. It is an expression of control over women's and girls' bodies."

... from - ActionAid (Changing the world with women and girls)

www.actionaid.org.uk/our-work/vawg/acid-attacks#:~:text=Women%20in%20countries%20around%20the%20world%20live%20with,

It makes grim reading.

He must be being assisted by friends. It seems obvious to me from his behaviour, and neighbours having called him ‘a good Muslim’ that there was no conversion to Christianity at all - and I doubt many of these asylum seekers’ conversions are genuine. So there should be no problem with returning him to Afghanistan. It really is about time that these fake conversions were dealt with. Priti Patel was taking the church to task over them several years ago. No asylum seeker should be granted asylum solely on the grounds that they have converted to Christianity since arriving here. Having been baptised is not proof of being a Christian.

There is a reward of £20,000 on this evil excuse for a man’s head.

Let’s hope that it’s enough for someone to ring the police with information on his whereabouts.

Having been baptised is not proof of being a Christian.

I think that’s all that’s needed to prove to any deportation hearing that there’s a danger to life if he is deported back to whence he came.^

And that needs to change. Perhaps after this, it will.

Yes, I hope someone tips the police off to get the reward.

Just catching up on this thread and re your post yesterday morning maddyone, the C of E does baptise adults. On the 14th of August 2022 the Archbishop of York Steven Cottrell baptised 5 adults in the sea at Bridlington.

You cannot be confirmed unless you have been baptised.

A clash of cultures.

New Year's Eve in Cologne, Germany, seven years ago.

A series of sexual assaults against women perpetrated by immigrants changed Germany's welcoming culture. And gave support to the far-right.

The report should be watched. It takes a pretty unbiased look at where, and why, it all went wrong.

IMO, it 'all went wrong' because, as we have seen here in the UK, honest, open and rational debate on immigration and integration, is shunned by those who regard any such conversations as xenophobic and racist. Which results in the continued rise of the far right. Far Right, and Far Left - I use the terminology frequently but loosely because those on the Left or Right are not necessarily extreme, and everyone knows I'm sure that there are proponents of each group, and most of us don't want to see the dominance of either.

The video report is balanced. It does not vilify, nor exonerate, anyone.

youtu.be/qm5SYxRXHsI

Everything has become reduced to a binary choice. Left or Right. Do gooder/ woke/ snowflake or grow a backbone and join the Reform Party.
Vulnerable, needy refugee or evil Muslim would be criminal.

Silly post.

caknib is not wrong. Everything is now too black and white. Opinions are not shaded. It's tragic really. I suspect things are much worse down south.

It was silly because most of us are not prejudiced against a certain group, race, faith, of people because of the actions of a few.

Aveline

caknib is not wrong. Everything is now too black and white. Opinions are not shaded. It's tragic really. I suspect things are much worse down south.

Why down south?

Well the picture just keeps on getting clearer and worse. Some serious questions need to be asked and some consequences need to be seen to apply. Some people have made decisions that have put everyone at risk and it needs addressing.

Fat chance though.

Urmstongran

Well the picture just keeps on getting clearer and worse. Some serious questions need to be asked and some consequences need to be seen to apply. Some people have made decisions that have put everyone at risk and it needs addressing.

Fat chance though.

I agree and hope those guilty of allowing this man asylum after he had already committed offences in this country are rooted out.

This man didn’t just throw chemicals over the poor family; he slammed the 3yr old into the pavement and was lifting her up to do it again when he was rugby tackled by a brave onlooker who has suffered damage to their eyeballs.

Monster who deserves to die, preferably in pain.

If it’s correct that asylum was granted on appeal you’re talking about tribunal members headed by a judge, AGA. The problem seems to be that saying you have become a Christian takes precedence over a criminal record and being on the sex offenders’ register because the law prevents them being deported to a Muslim country. I sincerely hope that this case causes a rapid change in the law. There has to be a very robust test of whether someone really has converted to the Christian religion, rather than finding a friendly priest to baptise them. The Church has said it’s not its job to vet asylum seekers, but surely an adult converting to Christianity from another religion would be required to undertake a course of instruction and the priest should be convinced that they wish to become a member of the Church? Perhaps the lawyers I despise so much have links to ‘friendly’ priests who want to help asylum seekers to stay in the UK regardless of their past - ‘much joy over one sinner who repents (haha) and all that’. I find it appalling that my Church seems to be deeply embroiled in this practice and is responsible for this man remaining here to commit this atrocity.

Who on earth do you think you are to call my post silly?
Of course I can't back it up right now with research, but my perception is that there has been a shift towards binary views and little middle ground .

I doubt you will find research to back up your assertion. Any research conducted after what happened in Clapham will be deeply flawed through bias. From where do you get your ‘perception?

That's possible caknib however you are likely to be part of that binary.

Aveline

caknib is not wrong. Everything is now too black and white. Opinions are not shaded. It's tragic really. I suspect things are much worse down south.

Well I am down south and do not agree with caknib or Aveline

Me too, GrannyGravy13 which is why I wondered why it should be worse down South. When my son travels much further up north, he is shocked by the casual racism he sees in the area he visits and hears but that doesn't mean that I think overall the North is worse than the South!

I’m in East Anglia and am still able to discern the middle ground and shades of grey.

14:12Aveline

caknib is not wrong. Everything is now too black and white. Opinions are not shaded. It's tragic really. I suspect things are much worse down south.

Good let's hope people can/will speak out about how they feel about asylum seekers/illegals for too long debate has been shut down by the left with shouts of racist etc, I want it to be black and white and for people to be able to voice their opinions whatever they may be and we are reaching the tipping point now with this acid attack

From now on, “religious conversion” must be utterly disregarded during asylum applications.

Great deal of tolerance in my part of the south, and also little practical experience.