Clapham acid attacker - asylum seeker convicted of sex offence but still granted asylum?

I don't think the Home Office is corrupt just criminally incompetent.

Where is the evidence of corruption?

Aveline

I don't think the Home Office is corrupt just criminally incompetent.

That's a very sweeping statement.

Do you mean the whole of the Home Office, all 35,000 civil servants?

“It’s a terrifying business being a minister in the Home Office,” said a former senior civil servant who worked in the department during the 2000s. “There’s this huge back catalogue of errors and omissions, any one of which could appear on the front pages, and dominate the news.” The Windrush scandal, the biggest crisis to hit the department in years, left Caroline Nokes, the minister in charge when it broke, “always worried about what else would emerge”.

Errors, omissions, incompetence, corrupt the system, but you cakmib are suggesting that those working in the HO are corrupt.

Corruption is deliberate acts of misconduct and law-breaking, fraud, etc. Where is your evidence?

It's libellous.

Boo hoo.

GrannyGravy13

There is a reward of £20,000 on this evil excuse for a man’s head.

Let’s hope that it’s enough for someone to ring the police with information on his whereabouts.

Someone, somewhere, has got to be sheltering him - unless he's hiding out in the woods, because he has to eat, drink and sleep - and his injury obviously needs attention.

Such individuals are caught sooner or later. I'm sure he will be, soon.

cakmib

Boo hoo.

Pathetic.

It certainly escalated weirdly.

Best ignored.

Most strange.

I have to say that the thing that puzzles me is why this monster was claiming asylum in the first place. He apparently arrived here in 2016 from Afghanistan so we can assume it would've taken some time to reach the UK. Afghanistan was, prior to the taliban take-over in 2021 , not a country that an Afghan would need to flee from. There was religious tolerance, it was OK to peacefully protest about the government, whilst being gay was obviously not acceptable, there was no persecution of LGBT citizens and any threats to an individual from the taliban (very unlikely) would have been dealt with by the Afghan authorities. I do not think this monster was gay. I have discussed this with a former student of mine who was a senior officer in the Afghan Embassy in London (before 2021) and we came to the conclusion that the main reason to flee Afghanistan at that time would be if the monster was already a criminal there. Of course there could be other reasons that we were unaware of in our discussion (which was obviously speculative) but it would be interesting to know just why he was seeking asylum in the first place. Don't all jump on me but I wonder if he was a sex offender in Afghanistan too???

Afghanistan was, prior to the taliban take-over in 2021 , not a country that an Afghan would need to flee from.

Yes, I mentioned that upthread, Chapeau.
Interesting hypothesis.

Home Office sources said officials were demanding answers over why the suspect was granted asylum by the courts despite being denied the right to stay twice before.

Why was he not deported when first refused the right to stay? 🤔

I suspect that he wasn’t deported because it takes a long time, often years, after the refusal of application to stay, before a person is actually deported.

maddyone

I suspect that he wasn’t deported because it takes a long time, often years, after the refusal of application to stay, before a person is actually deported.

Are they also not entitled to launch an appeal if their claim is refused? So one refusal will not automatically result in deportation.. Maybe, also, that depends on the nature of the reason for the refusal.

I know there have been changes to the Nationality and Borders Act, but I don't follow these, so maybe someone knows better than me.

I believe they have problems recruiting anyway - does that mean that sometimes less experienced staff are dealing with these claims?

It's not a job I would relish.

Callistemon21

Best ignored.

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Yes Dickens I think a failed applicant would be allowed to appeal, maybe more than once. Like you I’m not an expert and any knowledge I’ve picked up along the way is incidental. Maybe someone else knows more than we do.

cakmib

www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/event/online-event/home-office-fit-purpose

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/15/home-offices-out-of-date-grasp-of-highlighted-by-watchdog

There you go.

Incompetence isn’t corruption
Public bodies have been cut to the bone, training etc much reduced

Apologies - I should’ve read the entire thread - if I had I wouldn’t have responded

The DM is reporting that 40 migrants on the Bibby Stockholm are attending church services:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13044697/For-one-bibby-stockholm-refugees-converting-christianity-fears-growing-loophole-clapham-attack-asylum-claim-church.html

I had thought of asking a FOI question about the numbers who have been granted asylum on the grounds that they have converted to Christianity but decided the HO would fob me off, so am going to email my MP (Conservative) with a view to this mockery of Christianity being stopped. If anything good can come out of this terrible attack, maybe it will be the ending of the mandatory grant of asylum if the applicant/appellant claims to have converted to Christianity and cannot be returned to a Muslim country.

Chestnut

The DM is reporting that 40 migrants on the Bibby Stockholm are attending church services:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13044697/For-one-bibby-stockholm-refugees-converting-christianity-fears-growing-loophole-clapham-attack-asylum-claim-church.html

One of the Chirch elders has told the BBC the same, it’s not just the DM reporting this.

Goodness!
I don’t believe so many people can possibly be genuinely converting to Christianity.