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Clapham acid attacker - asylum seeker convicted of sex offence but still granted asylum?

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Kandinsky Fri 02-Feb-24 08:43:28

What the hell is happening to this country?
Send these scum to Rwanda ASAP.

Totally sick of these violent criminals being allowed to stay here.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 09-Feb-24 13:06:36

I admit I did wonder if it was a serious question.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 09-Feb-24 13:11:50

Can I respectfully point out that the ex serviceman living on the streets are those that have refused help from various agencies, including their former regiments.

There are resources out there for them physical, financial, mental health and help with housing.

Some people have to hit rock bottom before they can even contemplate asking for help.

icanhandthemback Fri 09-Feb-24 13:34:37

GrannyGravy13, that is not necessarily true. One of my tenants has a home because I rescued him. He had very little help at all as he struggles with his mental health issues. My son in law was in the same boat and we rescued him. Help took a long time to actually arrive because of long waiting lists, waiting to hear outcomes of reviews of claims against the Service, etc, etc.
My tenant has come from living in a tent on a roundabout to having a home, getting a job and working with a charity to help other servicemen in the same position as him. I am glad I took a chance on him because he has proved I can put my trust in him.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 09-Feb-24 13:38:06

icanhandthemback I only know it from the Forces side, we know several welfare officers, both here and abroad and know how hard they work with those who suffer difficulties once leaving the armed services.

icanhandthemback Fri 09-Feb-24 14:01:49

GrannyGravy, I expect different Forces also have varying standards. At the time, the RAF were dire. I hope things have changed.

cakmib Fri 09-Feb-24 15:53:02

It is indeed a genuine question. Often the two groups of people are tied together in conversations.

There is a perception that there is a pot of money/recources and that somehow ex service people and those seeking asylum are in competition.That somehow " our own " are more worthy, a better class of human being.

I have heard and read that reasonable provision is made for ex service personel and I certainly hope so. Any body experiencing poor mental health should be helped.

People seeking asylum are often turfed out of hotels onto the street with nothing and become homeless.
I have never heard of mobile phones being given away and it seems strange that this is still trotted out indignantly, as if they are the very height of luxury.

There are sufficient rescources in this, the 5th richest country in the world to manage change without pitting groups of people against each other.

Aveline Fri 09-Feb-24 16:43:55

5th largest maybe but small in area. Population density and demand for services of all kinds do not square well with boatloads of optimists arriving each day

GrannyGravy13 Fri 09-Feb-24 16:51:42

The police are now saying that the man wanted in connection with the corrosive liquid attack did in all probability go into the Thames on the evening of 31/1

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 09-Feb-24 16:59:30

Justice of a kind then. He will face the judgement of a higher authority than we have on earth.

Callistemon21 Fri 09-Feb-24 16:59:46

GrannyGravy13

Can I respectfully point out that the ex serviceman living on the streets are those that have refused help from various agencies, including their former regiments.

There are resources out there for them physical, financial, mental health and help with housing.

Some people have to hit rock bottom before they can even contemplate asking for help.

Yes, I know there is help available.

Callistemon21 Fri 09-Feb-24 17:01:58

GrannyGravy13

icanhandthemback I only know it from the Forces side, we know several welfare officers, both here and abroad and know how hard they work with those who suffer difficulties once leaving the armed services.

Much of the help does come from charities, though, not government and volunteer workers for RBL, SSAFA etc.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 09-Feb-24 17:02:55

Those on the streets are those who can’t cope.

Callistemon21 Fri 09-Feb-24 17:05:24

Germanshepherdsmum

Those on the streets are those who can’t cope.

They may have come out of the Forces and found their marriages have broken down, they are then homeless.

It's Catch 22 - no home, no address, cannot get a job
No job - cannot get anywhere to live.

Galaxy Fri 09-Feb-24 17:08:44

It was domestic violence, men like him often try to harm themselves after they have meted out violence on their partner or ex partner.

Callistemon21 Fri 09-Feb-24 17:10:07

Galaxy

It was domestic violence, men like him often try to harm themselves after they have meted out violence on their partner or ex partner.

What a pity they don't just harm themselves first.

Smileless2012 Fri 09-Feb-24 17:13:23

I've had a news feed through that due to CTV footage, the police believe he jumped from a bridge and has drowned. Anyone else seen or heard this?

If it's the case, I hope they find his body so at least that poor woman and her children will know he can never hurt them again.

BlueBelle Fri 09-Feb-24 18:33:58

I heard on the news tonight the police believe he is dead and that is what I have thought from the beginning the fact that he must have been in so much pain and mentally unwell and used no money since the incidence really pointed to me that he had taken his own life or even died from his untreated injuries.
He was the lady’s partner has it ever said if he was the children’s father ?

Primrose53 Fri 09-Feb-24 19:23:47

I don’t believe he’s died from jumping in the river. If that is the case his body will wash up somewhere but I don’t think it will.

Casdon Fri 09-Feb-24 19:49:44

The Thames is known as a river of lost souls Primrose, strong tides and mud mean many bodies are never found. A random fact I thought I’d never need, I picked this up when I visited the London Transport Museum a few weeks ago.
We may never know the outcome.

Galaxy Fri 09-Feb-24 20:13:00

I loathe it when these violent men do this. What utter cowards they are.

Oreo Fri 09-Feb-24 20:20:45

Aveline

5th largest maybe but small in area. Population density and demand for services of all kinds do not square well with boatloads of optimists arriving each day

That’s it in a nutshell.

Oreo Fri 09-Feb-24 20:22:32

Saves the cost of a trial and imprisonment.

MissInterpreted Fri 09-Feb-24 20:45:58

Smileless2012

I've had a news feed through that due to CTV footage, the police believe he jumped from a bridge and has drowned. Anyone else seen or heard this?

If it's the case, I hope they find his body so at least that poor woman and her children will know he can never hurt them again.

I've just been saying the same. Hopefully they will find his body and give this poor woman and her family some form of closure. If he is never found, there will always be that 'what if'.

Anniebach Fri 09-Feb-24 21:04:56

Seems case closed

Smileless2012 Fri 09-Feb-24 22:03:09

If they find his body, I agree Annie.