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Clapham acid attacker - asylum seeker convicted of sex offence but still granted asylum?

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Kandinsky Fri 02-Feb-24 08:43:28

What the hell is happening to this country?
Send these scum to Rwanda ASAP.

Totally sick of these violent criminals being allowed to stay here.

Callistemon21 Fri 02-Feb-24 10:20:20

MaizieD

Usual vile comments being trotted out, I see...

It was a truly vile act!!

😲

Elegran Fri 02-Feb-24 10:25:32

Sago

It is a disgrace that he was allowed to commit this crime.
Who do we have living here?
Potentially we have imported an army, fed, clothed and housed them.
It’s not going to have a happy ending.
I do not believe multiculturalism is working in the UK.

Multiculturalism has been present in Britain ever since the Romans got here, and was probably here long before that, with every wave of incomers to land on these shores. Our DNA is evidence of strains from many groups.

As each one arrived, the residents greeted them with a hail of suspicion, rocks, spears, insults, half-bricks and accusations of carrying out monstrous attacks which they themselves would not have committed - oh no, never, not us, it was them ! Then after a couple of generations, the incomers became part of the patchwork tapestry of cross-related residents and were confronting the next wave of newcomers with the same obstacle course.

I agree, he should not be allowed to stay here if he can't keep the laws, but don't extrapolate from that that ALL incomers should be banned. If that could be backdated, how far back would you go? A decade? 50 years? A century? Two? Three? Most of us wouldn't be here - our forefathers and foremothers would never have met.

karmalady Fri 02-Feb-24 10:29:08

He bought and threw oven cleaner, what a vile vile animal.

maddyone Fri 02-Feb-24 10:29:11

MaizieD

Usual vile comments being trotted out, I see...

I think what’s vile about this case is the throwing of acid at a mother and her two children and injuring other people in the process. Injuring them with acid! That’s what’s vile Maizie.
Your comment is unnecessary and totally devoid of compassion for the victims of this crime and instead you show sympathy to the criminal by way of disliking comments made by posters about the criminal. There is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone saying that after this horrific crime he should be returned to his country of birth.

karmalady Fri 02-Feb-24 10:30:13

except I should not have said animal, animals don`t behave like that.

vintage1950 Fri 02-Feb-24 10:32:13

A horrible, vile act and this man should not have been granted asylum, given his previous conviction. However, how does the case of this individual mean that all asylum seekers are criminals?

karmalady Fri 02-Feb-24 10:34:08

oven cleaner!! premeditated to cause the maximum damage to a mum and her children

I am so glad this piece of s**t had oven cleaner on half his face, I hope he gets to feel what hell is like

Callistemon21 Fri 02-Feb-24 10:34:37

Hear hear, maddyone
He was convicted of crimes after being given sanctuary here and why on earth should claiming to have become a Christian be a reason for him to be allowed to remain here?
Being Muslim is not a reason for anyone to be deported.

Whoever made that decision needs to be dismissed as the grounds for granting the appeal goes against everything our multicultural society should stand for!

He should be deported after completing his sentence, no matter what his fate in his homeland.
He gives a bad name to others seeking sanctuary here and people are naturally afraid and apprehensive.

MissAdventure Fri 02-Feb-24 10:34:49

Has anyone said that all are criminal?
This one, however, is.

Chestnut Fri 02-Feb-24 11:05:43

There are always people defending the indefensible and that is the problem. We will never be able to implement sufficient controls and punishments as long as people keep doing this.

No-one ever said that all immigrants are criminals, what a ridiculous thing to say. But as I pointed out, there are thousands with mental problems being lost. Where are they? Would you like your daughter to come across one of them in the throes of a mental breakdown? All they have to do is make some pathetic excuse and they are allowed to stay.

Why should we pay to build more prisons to keep all these people who have come from all corners of the world? We have enough of our own criminals.

MissAdventure Fri 02-Feb-24 11:10:20

We all have to tiptoe around the elephant in the room these days.

Anniebach Fri 02-Feb-24 11:13:06

A 3 year old has been brutally attacked, 3 year old

Kandinsky Fri 02-Feb-24 11:21:27

We have many many home grown violent criminals, there are good and bad people if ALL nationalities

We do indeed have enough of our own problem people, no need to import any more! And in this case let them stay here when they’ve already committed an offence.

Honestly, no wonder this country is in the state it’s in. Too many ( mostly left wingers / liberals ) making excuses for these scum.

Luckygirl3 Fri 02-Feb-24 11:23:54

No-one can defend this dreadful act - it is appalling.

But appalling acts are perpetrated by many human beings, regardless of their country of origin. This has not happened because he is an immigrant, but because he is mentally ill.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 02-Feb-24 11:24:21

Not to mention the human rights laws which enable them to stay here. Remember the man who wasn’t deported because he’d acquired a cat?

MissAdventure Fri 02-Feb-24 11:25:26

Yes.
He had formed a meaningful attachment to it, it was said.

Luckygirl3 Fri 02-Feb-24 11:26:45

Honestly, no wonder this country is in the state it’s in. Too many ( mostly left wingers / liberals ) making excuses for these scum.

I have seen no-one making excuses for this man's actions.

They are just pointing out that he has not done this dreadful thing because he is an immigrant, but because he is a human being, who is likely mentally ill.

Rockyroad Fri 02-Feb-24 11:27:40

Could not agree more. Well said.

Rockyroad Fri 02-Feb-24 11:28:39

Kandinsky

*We have many many home grown violent criminals, there are good and bad people if ALL nationalities*

We do indeed have enough of our own problem people, no need to import any more! And in this case let them stay here when they’ve already committed an offence.

Honestly, no wonder this country is in the state it’s in. Too many ( mostly left wingers / liberals ) making excuses for these scum.

Could not agree more - well said.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 02-Feb-24 11:28:49

I expect a human rights lawyer on legal aid thought that one up. Just like this crock of was advised to say he’d become a Christian and go to church a few times so the vicar would speak up for him.

biglouis Fri 02-Feb-24 11:29:34

Potentially we have imported an army, fed, clothed and housed them. It’s not going to have a happy ending. I do not believe multiculturalism is working in the UK

Those on here who are defending these people need to wake up and realise what is happening. Until then you will find yourself shuddering over and over again every time one of these horrors is reported

Why should we pay to build more prisons to keep all these people who have come from all corners of the world? We have enough of our own criminals

Agree 100%

Anniebach Fri 02-Feb-24 11:30:50

Was he found to be mentally ill after his first attack ?

The man who murdered 3 people has now been sentenced, rather late

Cossy Fri 02-Feb-24 11:31:26

I absolutely and completely agree that he, and others seeking asylum, should not be allowed to stay if 1) they are already convicted criminals and 2) if they commit serious or violent crime whilst here either before or after they’re given leave to remain!

Chestnut Fri 02-Feb-24 11:31:45

Luckygirl3

No-one can defend this dreadful act - it is appalling.

But appalling acts are perpetrated by many human beings, regardless of their country of origin. This has not happened because he is an immigrant, but because he is mentally ill.

But we don't want mentally ill immigrants walking amongst us. It was on the news last night that the authorities have lost thousands of them. We can barely look after our own mentally ill, we don't want sick people from all over the world. Don't you get that?

AGAA4 Fri 02-Feb-24 11:32:04

This country gave this man sanctuary and he betrayed us by committing this despicable act of violence. He was already a known criminal and allowed to stay.
We do have our home grown criminals and we are stuck with them but those who commit offences having been given asylum should be deported.