Another person is mauled to death

BlueBelle

Today I passed a lady in a very small alleyway she had two
large dogs a German Shepherd and a BullyXL there were both on leads and both muzzled She stood still and turned both dogs away from me as I passed her
Phew, but that was good behaviour, although I still have no idea why anyone would have a bully as a pet

I still have no idea why anyone would have a bully as a pet.

Me neither. I find them quite ugly - they look like fighting animals. They remind me of those obsessive men who pump iron until their muscles are distorted and bulging. And, when you consider what they are capable of when they get hold of a human being... shudder.

There are lovely big dogs to choose from - German Shepherds are majestic; big golden or black Labradors are a handsome breed.

I know all dogs can 'turn' - and they can't tell us when they are unwell or irritated, but I suspect responsible owners know their dogs and know when to keep them at arm's length from others.

Sometimes, when you look at the faces of the 'well-hard' males who own these XL creatures, and the face of the dog itself- there's a similarity.

One thing that really bugs me is when owners put those spiked metal collars on these dogs. You have to seriously wonder about their mentality.

I adopted a GSD possibly cross Doberman at ten months old just a big puppy really and I made sure to train hum at obedience classes. For what it is worth, he was more naturally aggressive than my purebred GSD who also went to obedience classes when she was about the same age. I had her from a twelve week pup so I was able to train the easier early stages myself. Both dogs were far too dependent for their own good.

I also adopted a BC cross GSD an adult stray who was not at all aggressive but who was hard to train to recall as he had learned to be a highly intelligent stray. I am just saying the herding breeds are not required to be aggressive whereas the bull breeds were specifically bred for fighting.

Germanshepherdsmum

That’s me done for then. And my husband as we adopted in joint names.

It was a bit vague ......

MissInterpreted

Chestnut

Yet another ghastly dog story, don't read this if you're squeamish because it really is sickening. 45 sheep and lambs left dead and dying after crazed dog attack.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13062375/Dog-kills-45-sheep-bloody-rampage-farmer.html
I have been saying for years that dogs need to be licensed, registered and chipped because it's the only way we can start to get to grips with these monstrous owners.

It is already the law that all dogs should be microchipped and registered - and has been for some time here in Scotland. Sadly, you regularly see posts on social media about lost dogs - or dogs which have been found and don't have a microchip, so obviously many owners just don't bother to comply. How we get around that, I honestly don't know. Responsible owners will always comply with the regulations.

The current rules cannot be enforced because there is no money coming in. There needs to be a proper dog licensing system which provides sufficient fees to pay staff, run a database and other admin, and most importantly enforce the rules around microchipping, dog fouling, antisocial behaviour, and XL Bullys etc. This little island is just too crowded to allow people to keep big aggressive dogs cooped up in small city flats or houses and unable to get out. I'd like to see all that checked out, because it's probably those frustrated animals who are going berserk when they get outside, killing people and animals.

Chestnut wrote: This little island is just too crowded to allow people to keep big aggressive dogs cooped up in small city flats or houses and unable to get out. I'd like to see all that checked out, because it's probably those frustrated animals who are going berserk when they get outside, killing people and animals."

The RSPCA can stop this form of cruelty to dogs. Members of the public have to pick up the phone and tell the RSCPA receptionist who is manning the ring-ins .

Id also like to see the Kennel Club be responsible for dog welfare specifically in ethics of breeding. I see no sign of their having any ethics of breeding at all.

I would not disagree with you at all on that, Chestnut. As I've said before, it's all very well having new laws and regulations, but these need to be enforced and as you say, at the moment, there just isn't the money to do that. A proper licensing scheme with realistic fees would go some way to remedy that situation.

Good luck with RSPCA.
They were worse than useless when I had cause to phone them. (Admittedly years ago)

I’ve round the RSPCA useless. One example,bull breed left in garden, flimsy wooden roof shelter, tins of food thrown out - no cause for concern as it had food and shelter. The neglect and cruelty obvious, similar with a mangy depressed German shepherd. Real neglect and abuse of that dog

Many years ago when I had a pony someone on the field told me in no uncertain terms what they thought of the RSPCA. I was really surprised at the time but over the years have realised he was right. They receive so much money in donations and yet small animal charities seem to put far more effort into helping people and animals.

Dickens

BlueBelle

Today I passed a lady in a very small alleyway she had two
large dogs a German Shepherd and a BullyXL there were both on leads and both muzzled She stood still and turned both dogs away from me as I passed her
Phew, but that was good behaviour, although I still have no idea why anyone would have a bully as a pet

I still have no idea why anyone would have a bully as a pet.

Me neither. I find them quite ugly - they look like fighting animals. They remind me of those obsessive men who pump iron until their muscles are distorted and bulging. And, when you consider what they are capable of when they get hold of a human being... shudder.

There are lovely big dogs to choose from - German Shepherds are majestic; big golden or black Labradors are a handsome breed.

I know all dogs can 'turn' - and they can't tell us when they are unwell or irritated, but I suspect responsible owners know their dogs and know when to keep them at arm's length from others.

Sometimes, when you look at the faces of the 'well-hard' males who own these XL creatures, and the face of the dog itself- there's a similarity.

One thing that really bugs me is when owners put those spiked metal collars on these dogs. You have to seriously wonder about their mentality.

A spiked collar is actually announcing that theirs is a fighting dog. As for cropped ears

I ve dealt with the RSPCA three times in the past and each time they were awful and did nothing to help I ve no confidence in them at all

I was shocked and really upset with the way the woman spoke to me, as if I was something that had fallen off the sole of her shoe.

The RSPCA can't stem the tide of cruelty to animals but they are a lot better than useless. The RSPCA has to work within the law.

It's the law that needs to be changed so animals have more advocates and more legal rights. We want all cruelties to animals to be criminalised. Look at some current dog breeds and view evidence of legal cruelty. Many rich voters support unethical breeding.

Caleo my concerns have been about dogs subjected to brutality and neglect

I think it should be made much more difficult to own a dog. I thing all dog owners should need to have done a course in dog care. It could be done online with a test at the end and dog breeders should need to inspect the home a puppy is going to to check that it is suitable for the dog they are planning to have. Yes, I know deception will occur, but probably not that often.

My sister is a cat lover and has rescue cats, and on every occasion the rescue centre has not given her the cats until they have seen the cats new home..

This was shared on a pet food retailer’s Facebook page.

Somewhere to avoid then!!

No link as I ve just heard on the radio
A boy has been bitten on the head by an XL Bully the owners have been arrested

www.merseyside.police.uk/news/merseyside/news/2024/february/two-arrested-after-child-bitten-by-dog-in-bootle/

Found this

Well,, now we know where not to go on holiday.

What a strange advert- it seems they want xl bullies as their client base. I’m sure I’m not alone in knowing I’d avoid that place

BlueBelle

No link as I ve just heard on the radio
A boy has been bitten on the head by an XL Bully the owners have been arrested

What was an XL Bully doing in a communal area of flats with no muzzle? That poor little boy, scarred for life mentally and physically to the face. No amount of punishment to the owners can ever undo that damage.

I can't see any other way to deal with this than a properly funded and enforced dog licence system. In the meantime, people really need to report these dangerous dogs but are probably too scared because of the type of people who own them.

It’s awful isn’t it every time I see one my heart goes in my mouth even when they are on a lead

This is totally out of control now. As a dog lover and active in animal welfare, even I believe every one of these dogs should be humanely euthanised. There is quite obviously something genetically wrong with these dogs and coupled with irresponsible owners it has become far to dangerous to allow them in the UK.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-68267358

The boy has injuries described as "life-changing".

For how much longer are we to tolerate these random attacks?