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King Charles

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BlueBelle Mon 05-Feb-24 18:01:42

It’s just been on the news that Charles has cancer and is not taking any duties for now

Iam64 Sat 10-Feb-24 10:22:13

Didn’t mean it wasn’t happening as posts here confirm

Anniebach Sat 10-Feb-24 10:19:38

It wasn’t voted on until 2002,

Calendargirl Sat 10-Feb-24 10:07:03

And it was a ‘proper’ wedding, not a blessing.

I and my family were guests.

Calendargirl Sat 10-Feb-24 10:05:56

My cousin married a divorcee in her local parish church. This was back in 1985! I’m sure his ex was still alive.

I thought if the priest was willing to do it, and the divorced person was ‘repentant’, (don’t know how else to describe it), it could take place.

He was the guilty party also!

Anniebach Sat 10-Feb-24 09:54:12

Wish icanhandthemback would explain how as a divorcee she remarried in church in 1996 yet the church didn’t allow marriage of divorcees until 2002

Calendargirl Sat 10-Feb-24 07:49:24

Am with you absent.

‘Registry office’ sets my teeth on edge.

I always say ‘register office’, not sure if that is strictly correct either though.

absent Sat 10-Feb-24 05:45:31

I know I am an unrepentant pedant, but I have to post that nobody in the UK gets married in a registry office. They are married in a registrar's office. A registry office – a now archaic concept – was a place to seek housemaids, parlour maids, footmen, butlers, lady's maids, kitchen maids, cooks, nursery maids and whatever other servants ultra rich people required.

Anniebach Fri 09-Feb-24 20:49:21

A marriage in the Anglican Church is open to the public

icanhandthemback Fri 09-Feb-24 20:31:58

Sorry, should have said the "future" Head of the Church of England.

Anniebach Fri 09-Feb-24 19:41:08

Slight error jaberwok ?

Jaberwok Fri 09-Feb-24 19:37:50

The late Queen was head of the Church of England in 2005, not the then Prince of Wales.

Anniebach Fri 09-Feb-24 19:36:05

The late Queen was married

icanhandthemback Fri 09-Feb-24 19:30:45

Anniebach

I doubt in their mid 50’s they considered a church wedding, not every divorcee does

You'd think the head of the CofE might! Still, it's done and dusted. They were presumably happy with their choice.

Anniebach Fri 09-Feb-24 14:10:35

Marriage of divorcees was not carried out in Anglican churches
untill 2002

Anniebach Fri 09-Feb-24 14:07:31

I doubt in their mid 50’s they considered a church wedding, not every divorcee does

Glorianny Fri 09-Feb-24 14:05:46

icanhandthemback

Things have definitely moved on regarding who can marry in a church and their circumstances before the marriage. It's time we moved on about the colour "white" too.

I was remarried in a church in 1996 without any questions about why both my husband were divorced. I know of people in similar circumstances who were married before then too. Glorianny Charles and Camilla were married in 2005 and most certainly able to marry in Church as divorcees (although the adultery might have scuppered it). I suspect they took the path of least resistance because the public were not quite as enamoured of Camilla back then. I think Diana was still too popular for them to have had a Church Wedding.

If they had had a church wedding there is a good chance it would have split the C of E. Although most clergy in the UK are fairly liberal the church does have some members who are very "traditional "and much closer to the RC view of marriage.

icanhandthemback Fri 09-Feb-24 13:59:52

Things have definitely moved on regarding who can marry in a church and their circumstances before the marriage. It's time we moved on about the colour "white" too.

I was remarried in a church in 1996 without any questions about why both my husband were divorced. I know of people in similar circumstances who were married before then too. Glorianny Charles and Camilla were married in 2005 and most certainly able to marry in Church as divorcees (although the adultery might have scuppered it). I suspect they took the path of least resistance because the public were not quite as enamoured of Camilla back then. I think Diana was still too popular for them to have had a Church Wedding.

Dickens Fri 09-Feb-24 13:24:13

Luckygirl3

When I spotted the headline "Queen says king is coping well ......" or words to that effect, I thought it was crazy, as the queen is dead.

I do not think I will ever get my head round Camilla being queen .....

Well, after 70 years and 142 days (I think) - it's hardly surprising you instinctively thought "eh, what?!"

The late Queen has been the backdrop to our lives for the major part of them - second longest reigning monarch in history.

I think, also, because Queen Elizabeth was 'old-school', and we've seen the end of that era, it takes some getting used to - this new 'order' of things?

Calendargirl Fri 09-Feb-24 13:19:38

The Prince and Camilla had planned to get married in a room inside Windsor Castle, apparently not realising that under the terms of the 1994 Marriage Act it would have had to be licensed and would thereby allow any commoner to tie the knot in the Queen’s Windsor home in future.
So instead they went to Windsor Guildhall, already licensed for civil ceremonies, and had a blessing afterwards at Windsor Castle.

Luckygirl3 Fri 09-Feb-24 12:59:04

When I spotted the headline "Queen says king is coping well ......" or words to that effect, I thought it was crazy, as the queen is dead.

I do not think I will ever get my head round Camilla being queen .....

Anniebach Fri 09-Feb-24 12:04:58

Could it not be Charles and Camilla chose not to have a church
wedding.

Women who marry into the royal family, George 6th etc, wives
were chosen, things moved on, Sarah lived with a chap before she married Andrew, Edward and Sophie lived together for several years, Catherine lived with William, Megan lived with a
celebrity chef between two marriages.

Glorianny Fri 09-Feb-24 12:03:14

Jaberwok

Callistemon21. I think you add right about HM's second marriage. Of course a church wedding could, and probably would, have caused controversy for obvious reasons, so far better to have a civil marriage a church blessing later. Princess Anne married again in Scotland at Crathie Kirk well away from prying eyes, but obviously HM couldn't do that.

Also because when she remarried the C of E did not perform ceremonies for divorcees
The Church of England has allowed divorced people to remarry in church, subject to a priest’s discretion, since 2002. At the General Synod meeting of that year, 269 members voted in favour of allowing Christian remarriage compared to 83 against
She was married in 1992.

Dickens Fri 09-Feb-24 11:42:50

Of course, men are not subject to the same sexual standards as women. It is accepted that they can sow-their-wild-oats all over the place (including with married women - or even men), and appear, suited and booted at the alter in clothing that doesn't give their game away.

It's archaic.

But - if you choose to marry into the RF, you either accept the tradition(s) or flout them. And, if you flout them, you can't pick and choose which suit and which don't. If you want the privileges and benefits you have to abide with the rules. However, these will change over time but if you are one of the 'modernisers', you are going to get some flack. Not everyone is happy with Charles' modernising of the RF, nor his passion for environmental matters - and he's been criticised for his 'taste' in architecture. Considering his background, I feel a sneaking admiration for him.

Jaberwok Fri 09-Feb-24 11:36:49

Callistemon21. I think you add right about HM's second marriage. Of course a church wedding could, and probably would, have caused controversy for obvious reasons, so far better to have a civil marriage a church blessing later. Princess Anne married again in Scotland at Crathie Kirk well away from prying eyes, but obviously HM couldn't do that.

Glorianny Fri 09-Feb-24 11:12:37

It just occurred to me. How can people not telling the truth or a priest not asking be a denial of the ruling?
And of course divorced people get married in church. Adultery is not the only cause of divorce.