Atlantic Ocean circulation nearing ‘devastating’ tipping point

We are now the dominant species on earth? Not for much longer.
In terms of 'dominance' that has lasted millenia but only in the last few centuries or even decades, these problems have arisen?

I don't agree with the premise of your argument.

It is all very well, too, saying that climate changes have happened before.

What climate experts know, but most of us don't seem to, is that the changes occur in cycles with a long build-up in between, and other changes that affect the climate (involving the sun, the earths journey through space, volcanoes erupting, changes in the path of ocean currents and other things) also occur in cycles of their own and their history can be traced.. According to the sum of all these, they predicted that the earth should in fact be getting colder gradually at the moment, not warmer fast as is happening.

The other big difference os that human beings are now the dominant species on earth, and for as long as they have been able to do so they have been altering their environment so as to more comfortable they. They chop down forests to grow more food to avoid the inevitable famines that their increasing numbers would cause. They burn the wood to keep them warm, they then burn coal and oil to keep them even warmer. they use these energy sources to drive machinery in factories to satisfy their desire for more and more consumer goods, and to fuel the transport of those goods (and food) from the far side of the globe, and to carry them to places which once were only visited by a few explorers in wooden ships powered by the wind or oarsmen. They commute to work from their homes tens of miles away, where once they would have lived within walking distance of their place of work.All this use of fossil fuel adds to the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, which blanket the earth and slow down the escape of heat.

Everyone thinks that their own use is modest, that the culprits are only celebrities whizzing around in private jets, but try adding up how many people per year fly to a tropical isle for a stag or hen night, drive the length of a continent for a touring holiday, replace their car, clothes or furniture frequently, or fill their wheeliebin with disposable stuff that will contribute to the many tons of landfill.

It’s all very well saying that changes like this have always happened. So they have, and at one time all the land was one big continent, but changes have happened in geological time and people weren’t even around for most of them. If things change so fast that we can notice them, we will indeed notice them and may not enjoy them. Stop flying and get out of your cars if you are able to walk or can take a bus! (Hides behind sofa,)

karmalady

There have been smany inversions in the oceans since the earth was formed. Temperature inversions and magnetic inversions. The earth is always in a state of flux, nothing is static. We are living within a very tiny time frame wrt earth age and these movements and changes will be frightening because we know about them now, through advanced technology and science

Best to live in the moment, it is what it is and `what if` are two scary frightening words, best not to use them, just live the best you can be in your own bubble

Remember that scare-mongering sells papers

Would you like me to quote the scientific papers that provide evidence for this phenomena?

You simply can’t dismiss this as scare mongering.

We went down that road before and look where that got us!

It is just as well that this is being taken seriously by some and in a timely fashion, which has saved a lot of devastating flooding from sea rise on the south coast.

If you lived near the sea/river in say Shoreham, you would not be so quick to say “scaremongering” - in fact you would have seen over your lifetime how the sea level rises are bringing direct consequences to both urban and rural life.

I suspect the argument, however, is centred around the cause of this sea rise - but frankly as you said, we live in a very tiny time frame - but it amounts to the same thing.

Also linked with solar flares and our dying sun btw.

There have been smany inversions in the oceans since the earth was formed. Temperature inversions and magnetic inversions. The earth is always in a state of flux, nothing is static. We are living within a very tiny time frame wrt earth age and these movements and changes will be frightening because we know about them now, through advanced technology and science

Best to live in the moment, it is what it is and `what if` are two scary frightening words, best not to use them, just live the best you can be in your own bubble

Remember that scare-mongering sells papers

So let’s think this through.

The article in the Guardian, was also echoed in reports by CNN, The Washington Post, various scientific publications, the BBC and many others.

So reducing this phenomena as just a scurrilous article in the guardian is a tad disingenuous😄.

This is one of the climate change shifts that scientists are most worried about, and would bring about severe impact - particularly in the North Atlantic region, but the knock-on effect will be felt throughout the planet as this is a major global climate regulator.

Measuring what is happening has been carried out for years, so it is an accurate and timely warning.

Another scurrilous article published by the Guardian, the climate is clearly getting warmer and changes are occurring worldwide, how they are going to affect the climate is pure speculation.
Many predictions have proved wildly inaccurate and clearly biased by activists

Still one bit of good news when the system stops the U.K. will be much colder, while the rest of the world burns.

I’ve given up.

With the actual reality of climate change on earth that should be of the most importance globally. The human race is hell bent on waging war on each other. I fear for the future in every respect I really do.

Yep- very troubling news but no one seems to want to give up their cars or other trappings of civilised life so I think we're all off to hell in a hand cart. Meanwhile people obsess about putting the wrong thing in their re-cycling bin. A bit laughable really.