The biggest surprise in the by elections is that Reform UK trounced the Lib Dem’s!

The same will happen with the GE.. It will be a very low turn out.
Labour will win but not with a massive majority, I know quite a few under 35 Yr old who have never voted and are not interested.
Such a shame as its their future.

Isabelle Oakeshott.

Yet if the young don’t vote they blame us oldies for ‘ruining their future’ Vizgirl! Same over Brexit referendum/Glasto!

Liberal Democrats lose their deposits in both by-elections
Party’s share of vote plummets on 2019 election result as it receives less than five per cent of votes cast and forfeits the £500 payment(Daily Telegraph)

Bet Ed's not a happy bunny today😊

Where is Ed??

Thanks Whitewavemark2

Urmstongran

Yet if the young don’t vote they blame us oldies for ‘ruining their future’ Vizgirl! Same over Brexit referendum/Glasto!

But you literally did for the ones who weren't quite old enough to vote. Like my kids. Not all young people are apathetic when it comes to politics & voting 🙄

As far as I understand you can’t “join” Reform and have a say in the leadership in any democratic sense. you can send them money though. They are counting on the gullible here methinks.

I apologise in advance "Urmstongran" I meant YOU collective not you personally. I didn't know how this highlighting thing happened 🤔

vegansrock

As far as I understand you can’t “join” Reform and have a say in the leadership in any democratic sense. you can send them money though. They are counting on the gullible here methinks.

Same as ukip/Brexit. Farage made a killing and the money was never accounted for.

Still people can do what they want with their money - clearly enough to burn.

Urmstongran

Reform’s real triumph - they scored three times more than the LibDems. Now there is a truly independent party for those who choose “none of the above”. Excellent news.

Completely agree. Reform U.K. for me too.

This Conservative voter would never vote Lib Dem’s.

No idea who is standing in my constituency.

vegansrock

As far as I understand you can’t “join” Reform and have a say in the leadership in any democratic sense. you can send them money though. They are counting on the gullible here methinks.

Absolutely. Mostly spent on Farage's beer on his little jolly down south? Awful human being. He's a nobody who will get nowhere, as has been proved time and time again.

nanna8

Is the Reform party a break off party from the Conservatives? I hadn’t heard of it. Not sure what they believe in. I assume they were connected with Farage ?

One and the same. Just changed their name. Still the same awful, divisive people who should be consigned to history.

The Reform party want to take votes from the Tories. I think some former Tory voters will give Reform their votes.
I wonder if all the Tory voters who didn't vote in these elections will turn out at the GE?

This labour voter would never vote lib dem. I did it once for complex reasons , never again.

Nicenanny3

Fantastic results for The Reform Party since they have only been going since 2020, Lib Dems are finished in my opinion. The usual bitter Labour supporters 🤔 why your party won what are you worried about, obviously the success and rise of the Reform Party 😊

Well, since 2020 if you discount how many times they’ve reinvented themselves..BNP, UKIP, Reform…

Alarming news about Reform's increased share of the vote, although not unexpected. A protest vote by disaffected rightwing Conservatives?
Tice's girlfriend is Isabel Oakshott, I think, often seen on TV.

Visgir1

The same will happen with the GE.. It will be a very low turn out.
Labour will win but not with a massive majority, I know quite a few under 35 Yr old who have never voted and are not interested.
Such a shame as its their future.

There's also a rumour the GE will be held in October, which is the time students will be settling into their new accommodation and could miss out on the window to register to vote. They need to be organised and get themselves a postal vote from their parents' address.

Frankly, I would rather cut off my own limbs than vote for Reform UK or any other right leaning party or any party associated with Farage!

It’s time for a change, 14 years of Tory rule has left many far worse off in so many ways and the constant restructures in the party and changes at the top haven’t helped build confidence.

Bring on the GE Sunak please and stop messing!

Galaxy

This labour voter would never vote lib dem. I did it once for complex reasons , never again.

I think it depends where they live. The LibDems stand a good chance of picking up a few of the leafy shire seats, so are likely to be the main opposition to the Conservatives.

GrannyGravy13

This Conservative voter would never vote Lib Dem’s.

No idea who is standing in my constituency.

I disagree. I think they will.

Btw many under 35’s are not “non political” nor “apathetic”, simply disillusioned.

Interestingly I’ve just read that the reform vote was by no means composed of fed-up Tory voters. I think that they probably are composed of the rump of Brexiters - so in that case I don’t hold out much for their future.

I also think that a lot of Tory voters stayed home.

Nicenanny3

Liberal Democrats lose their deposits in both by-elections
Party’s share of vote plummets on 2019 election result as it receives less than five per cent of votes cast and forfeits the £500 payment(Daily Telegraph)

Bet Ed's not a happy bunny today😊

Unless there was a 'behind the scenes' agreement to give Labour a better chance ...