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The biggest surprise in the by elections is that Reform UK trounced the Lib Dem’s!

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Urmstongran Fri 16-Feb-24 08:59:29

The Lib Dems were 4th place in both by elections yesterday. Unless they input Ed Davey’s lib dem votes into a Horizon computer? Not seen much of him these days have we? I think he’s toxic for the party.

Moving on. Tory say if you vote Reform UK we are handing the keys to No.10 to Keir Starmer. Well as far as I can see that’s a given now anyway so I’m happy to vote Reform UK at the GE.

They need a boost though. More membership money or donations. Farage joining in some centre stage capacity would definitely boost their ratings.

Meanwhile the Lib Dems must be in turmoil. “We need to talk about Ed” …

Nicenanny3 Mon 19-Feb-24 12:02:21

My personal opinion is that many voters in the original Red Wall constituencies that switched to Conservative will now vote Reform. Obviously Reform is not going to win the election but hopefully a few seats, it's a new party, small acorns eventually grow into oak trees. It's hard to break the two party stronghold.

Casdon Mon 19-Feb-24 12:37:43

That’s not what the polls currently say *Nicenanny3, although of course things might change before the election.
redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/latest-red-wall-voting-intention-30-31-january-2024/

HousePlantQueen Mon 19-Feb-24 13:18:27

Callistemon21

HousePlantQueen

You just keep on voting for flag waving grifters, funded by dubious overseas donors.....then we will get rid of the Tories. Thank you 😊

How very sad that waving a flag is associated by some with grifting and right wing groups.

Please, anyone who loves their country, start to reclaim the flags, however you vote.
National flags are not a matter of shame as anyone from another country will tell you!

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I agree Calistemon, I am angered by the grabbing of the Union flag by the right wing of politics, rather similar to the accusations of being unpatriotic which was thrown about on GN at those of us who voted to remain in the EU. It also has to be said that (to my mind anyway), that many of the out there figures of the right, people like Farage, Tice, come across as conmen and have all the trustworthiness of a second hand car dealer (with apologies to anyone in the car trade). This is a purely personal opinion

petra Mon 19-Feb-24 15:28:41

Gordon Brown gave the ok for our flag to be flown.
Up until 2007 our flag could only be flown on public buildings 18 days a year 😡
Thanks to Gordon 👏👏👏 it is now flown on all public buildings 365 days a year 👍

www.theguardian.com/focus/2021/mar/28/patriot-games-why-flying-the-union-jack-has-become-so-contentious

Maremia Mon 19-Feb-24 15:52:14

Some voters are looking at the stats, to figure out who is most likely to beat the Tories, holding their noses and voting tactically.

Callistemon21 Mon 19-Feb-24 15:55:51

Well done Gordon Brown!

Namsnanny Tue 20-Feb-24 17:35:24

MaizieD

Dinahmo

PS there was very little conjecture in the article.

I'm still waiting to be told what the 'outright lie' was.

Sorry MD I've been in and out of hospital, and because, I was looking for more uplifting or positive threads or articles to keep my spirits up, I gave this one a swerve smile

To be honest, I didn't realize I was on a time limit for answering or answering at all?confused.

I think it's always wise to consider that we all have lives filled with all kinds of good and not so good time consuming incidents, and not everyone turns tail when asked a direct questioned.

Now that you have my attention I'm surprised that you didn't do a bit of a deeper dive on the items listed in the article your self, if only to counter my claim?

The lie was the repeating of a lie turned into a oft repeated slur against CO.

To be fair, that website is known for mis quoting and over emotional left leaning rhetoric or according to one critic 'telling people what they want to hear without many facts'
A more concise way of putting it is 'preaching to the converted'.

I hope you can excuse my bluntness, no doubt I will have more patience when things have improved.

Hope your having a better day than I am smile.