Islamaphobia is getting out of control

There are some ludicrous statements here. No go areas because of the increase in mosques and Muslims. Immigrants always tend to live near each other - we have areas that traditionally attracted Irish, West Indians, Jewish, Polish, Ukrainians, Italians etc etc. it’s not unknown for people to move out to the suburbs as they build successful lives.

Whitewavemark2

Does anyone remember a particular group of Tories - largely led by the likes of Braverman and her cronies who announced that they intended to fight a cultural war before the election in order to attract the islamophobic vote - they hoped to spread fear.

It is working isn’t it?

You're back 😁

This is one of my favourite songs and most appropriate for this thread.

Have I gone mad?
Or have we all gone back a century?
To the black and white days of a life elementary
It's like we're all living in an old documentary
Or in nineteen thirty four
You'd think we'd have learned from the last generation
But now they're all gone so it's all speculation
You can rewrite the books for the good of the nation
But nobody wins a war

Rise up rise up
Bring your flags and your banners
We'll sing and we'll march to the beat
It's time for another Battle of Cable Street

We created a space for debate and discussions
Now people spout hate without repercussions
We're all in the hands of machines and the Russians
The curtain is really a wall
And everything's filtered so we don't see the tensions
It's all about likes and follows and mentions
And he who comes up with the maddest inventions
Well he may still yet save us all

Rise up rise up
For the twentieth century seems to be stuck on repeat
And no one remembers the Battle of Cable Street
Oh you fools you fools
With your greed and your rules
And your rage and your airs and graces
One hundred billion born on this planet
There's never once been born a racist
Well I met a man on the buses in Wapping
He was wittering on about the cost of his shopping
And the foreign invasion
There's no sign of it stopping
Look what they've done to my home
Theres two colours he said
There's white and there's rosy
I said you listen to me and you listen closely
Remember what happened to that swine Oswald Mosely
He crawled right back under his stone

Rise up rise up
Let's trample and crush all the fascists here under our feet
Just like we did at the Battle of Cable Street

Rise up rise up
There's still time for us to snatch a victory from the jaws of defeat
Just like we did at the battle of Cable Street

Rise up rise up
I can't offer much
But a shelter and something to eat
Then we rise at dawn
For the battle of Cable Street

(Spaces might be in the wrong place!)

I'm in!

😊

I roo can think for myself without direction from the government or anyone else.

I agree with your post at 10.37 Galaxy and I believe reasonable people would do so too.

Galaxy

Sorry Maddy, fat fingers it should say UK.

Oh and culture war and far right are meaningless to me now. My values tend to include avoiding minimising the use of swastikas, condeming people announcing that Jews should hide their faith, condeming unspeakable slogans waved or projected in the streets of London, if that makes me far right so be it. Use any term you like to describe my position.

What’s the Uak?

Galaxy

Deaths by terrorism in the Uak what does that look like?

This is the most interesting article I could find. There are plenty out there, if only folk got their heads out the Daily Mail 🙄

I am perfectly able to think without direction from the Tories thanks.

Yes, if you like.

Glorrianny
I deliberately mentioned the gun lobby in America, which is of course a different subject, but I knew someone would mention it if I didn’t.
It doesn’t alter the fact that 3000 people of every creed and colour were murdered in that attack.
No justification required Glorrianny.

Germanshepherdsmum

I don’t think anyone has suggested that most Londoners are Muslim CoolCoco. But that day will come.

Rivers of blood

Does anyone remember a particular group of Tories - largely led by the likes of Braverman and her cronies who announced that they intended to fight a cultural war before the election in order to attract the islamophobic vote - they hoped to spread fear.

It is working isn’t it?

Aveline

I just read something interesting which made me think. Hinduism. These people don't make aggressive claims. No terrorists. They live and let live and generally just get on. Hence there's no Hinduphobia. What is so special about Islam or Judaism that so many demands are made by them?

Ask folk who live in India about that ....

Deaths by terrorism in the Uak what does that look like?

And in the UK?

Glorianny

Well research from the US says right wing terrorism was responsible for most of the terrorist attacks there.
Between 1994 and 2020, there were 893 terrorist attacks and plots in the United States. Overall, right-wing terrorists perpetrated the majority—57 percent—of all attacks and plots during this period, compared to 25 percent committed by left-wing terrorists, 15 percent by religious terrorists, 3 percent by ethnonationalists, and 0.7 percent by terrorists with other motives
www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states

This is true. Single, white, young men are most likely to go on a rampage/commit acts of terrorism in America. Not Muslims.

I don’t think anyone has suggested that most Londoners are Muslim CoolCoco. But that day will come.

It depends; German is good if you want a career in technical subjects but Spanish is most widely spoken and Mandarin will be most useful in the future.

Callistemon21

^English may be a 2nd language because of empire/colonisation^

I think English is the most popular choice to learn as a second language, possibly because of the work opportunities in countries where English is the first language.
There are thousands of English language schools spread around many countries.

Actually, the best second language to learn, other than English, is German. Sadly, it's one which has been dropped in many schools. My daughter did A Level German and was the only student. There was supposed to be another student from a different school taking it too, but dropped out. They no longer do it. Languages and the arts are NOT a priority in schools.

I will vote for Khan and Ulez - I’m not Muslim. Most Londoners aren’t Muslim contrary what some people on here seem to believe. Plus have you heard the Tory candidate. She doesn’t know her a from her elbow.

Anniebach

The first language in Wales was Welsh but with certain restrictions laid down by English parliament, my grandfather was hit in junior school for speaking Welsh, in Anglesey Welshmen were forbidden to be coastguards and English men
moved to Wales to take these jobs, waste of time because many
married Welsh women! ! !

Yes, a friend's mother was hit and had to wear something round her neck for speaking Welsh at school.
I'm all for keeping the language alive but not at the expense of children learning international languages.

It is frightening though HousePlantQueen isn’t it? I’m always more aware when we go up to London, and I was very afraid when my daughter and I took her three children up to London for three days when they were over from NZ. My grandson is very anxious and the sights and sounds of London initially were too much for him, and I was very fearful of coming across a pro Palestine protest because it would have really upset him. As it was midweek rather than weekend we saw nothing and our visits to various interesting places in London went smoothly.
But I wonder if people of every creed and colour should have to be afraid of doing everyday activities.

I taught many Muslim children when I was teaching and met some lovely people. One family brought a gift for me when they went on pilgrimage to Mecca. This is how it should be, not fear but cooperation and just getting along together.

The first language in Wales was Welsh but with certain restrictions laid down by English parliament, my grandfather was hit in junior school for speaking Welsh, in Anglesey Welshmen were forbidden to be coastguards and English men
moved to Wales to take these jobs, waste of time because many
married Welsh women! ! !