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Prince Harry loses his appeal

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maddyone Wed 28-Feb-24 11:35:06

It’s just been announced, Prince Harry has lost his appeal to have armed security provided when he is in Britain.
I’m not surprised.

Smileless2012 Fri 01-Mar-24 19:53:58

If the 'Grand Opinion for the Prerogative Concerning the Royal Family' was enacted and upheld, it maybe wouldn't make any difference where they lived.

Mollygo Fri 01-Mar-24 21:10:29

So, Glorianny, who would you support if Harry is obliged to leave the US and Meghan doesn’t want their children to go to the UK?
Interesting the way you accuse the father of having screwed up the son.
Is that a bit more of your inside information, a personal opinion or are youfollowing the herd?

Glorianny Fri 01-Mar-24 21:23:00

Mollygo

So, Glorianny, who would you support if Harry is obliged to leave the US and Meghan doesn’t want their children to go to the UK?
Interesting the way you accuse the father of having screwed up the son.
Is that a bit more of your inside information, a personal opinion or are youfollowing the herd?

I wouldn't "support" anyone. I would hope that both parents would put their children first and find a way of working through a difficult situation.

I think anyone who maintained a mistress (regardless of what physical interaction took place) throughout their marriage and the birth of their children, kept that relationship although it was shown to have been instrumental in the marriage breakdown, and then expected their traumatised children to accept the woman, after their mother was killed, is not fulfilling the duty of a parent, which sometimes involves putting your children first and delaying your own personal gratification, until they are older and have adjusted to the trauma.
As I said Harry is a classic example of "This be the verse" and come to think of it so is Charles.
"They fuck you up your mum and dad,
They may not mean to but they do"

Callistemon21 Fri 01-Mar-24 22:19:44

Mollygo

Thanks for that Callistemon. The children have dual citizenship, but do you think the US would back UK laws against the rights of the US citizens? I hope it doesn’t come to that but . . .

No, and I don't think for even one second that Charles or William would follow the letter or even the spirit of the law!

Although obviously Glorianny has a hotline to Meghan and thinks that's why they went to the US
😂

M0nica Fri 01-Mar-24 23:07:06

Glorianny and when did any monarch ever exercise those rights? The fact that their grandfather had 'rights' over their grandchildren doesn't seem to bother the Prince of Wales and I am unaware that fear of their grandmother having rights over their children ever worried any of the Queen's four children.

I am sure you can produce something better than that.

Callistemon21 Fri 01-Mar-24 23:18:50

They fuck you up your mum and dad,
They may not mean to but they do

Are you quoting generally, from inside knowledge of the Royal Family or personal experience, Glorianny?

lemsip Sat 02-Mar-24 08:38:48

oh dear, so many repetitive comments!
sometimes it is better to leave it!

or read the comments and see that it's all been said before!

Joseann Sat 02-Mar-24 08:58:50

lemsip

oh dear, so many repetitive comments!
sometimes it is better to leave it!

or read the comments and see that it's all been said before!

He he! I disagree lemsip. Glorianny is a master at finding new arguments, (I'm not picking on you here Glorianny!) And others get gold stars for reiteration in reply! 🌟 It just emphasises how boring Harry himself is, because he only has one drum to bang.

maddyone Sat 02-Mar-24 09:18:24

Whatever the situation with Harry, there are more important issues than him going on.He’s no longer important and I wish he’d realise how little importance he has now and with the royal family struggling with heath issues, the war in Ukraine and it’s potential for terrible consequences, and the war in Gaza with the ensuing unrest on our streets, I think Harry is now unimportant and of no consequence. The situation re his children and their grandparents is extremely sad, but not different to thousands of estranged grandchildren the world over.

Callistemon21 Sat 02-Mar-24 09:48:40

maddyone

Whatever the situation with Harry, there are more important issues than him going on.He’s no longer important and I wish he’d realise how little importance he has now and with the royal family struggling with heath issues, the war in Ukraine and it’s potential for terrible consequences, and the war in Gaza with the ensuing unrest on our streets, I think Harry is now unimportant and of no consequence. The situation re his children and their grandparents is extremely sad, but not different to thousands of estranged grandchildren the world over.

Hear hear.

I must admit, ever time I log on and see the heading of this thread in the list it makes me 😂
sometimes it is better to leave it!

No, keep it going just for the heading 😂

maddyone Sat 02-Mar-24 09:52:50

It was me who started the thread Calkistemon.
I think I’d better go to the doghouse grin

I thought that PH had lost his appeal was interesting, but I didn’t think the thread would run to ten pages and be discussing the health of the king and Catherine.
I should have known by now grin

Callistemon21 Sat 02-Mar-24 09:54:33

maddyone

It was me who started the thread Calkistemon.
I think I’d better go to the doghouse grin

I thought that PH had lost his appeal was interesting, but I didn’t think the thread would run to ten pages and be discussing the health of the king and Catherine.
I should have known by now grin

Yes I know, maddyone

An unintentional pun, I think 😂

maddyone Sat 02-Mar-24 09:56:36

I know grin

Ali08 Sat 02-Mar-24 11:22:40

I am sure his darling wife could afford to pay for any bodyguards he needs when travelling!!
They CHOSE to leave the RF, so why should they expect any of the benefits?!

M0nica Sat 02-Mar-24 14:09:37

Part of a snowflake generation who want their cake and eat it.

I wonder whether their children will be potty trained before they start school.

Oreo Sat 02-Mar-24 14:19:28

😂
They could take their own golden potties to school, complete with royal logos.

Sparklefizz Sat 02-Mar-24 14:19:48

Harry has a great sense of entitlement.
I remember him telling Oprah that his father had stopped giving him money. He was bitter, resentful and quite surprised shock. How many middle-aged men are still financially supported by daddy? I would have been highly embarrassed if my son had expected that.

In the days when H&M lived in Canada and Harry used to phone Charles, Charles was reported as saying that Harry treated him "like a bank" and that he stopped taking his calls because they were all about asking for money.

Glorianny Sat 02-Mar-24 14:23:17

Callistemon21

^They fuck you up your mum and dad,^
They may not mean to but they do

Are you quoting generally, from inside knowledge of the Royal Family or personal experience, Glorianny?

If I'm meant to be disturbed by that you have missed your mark Callistemon21 I have occasionally written about the problems of growing up with a bi-polar (then called manic-depressive) father and the awful treatment he received. It necessarily affected all of us.
As for my own kids they'd probably say "Oh yes" then give me a hug and say I did my best.
That's all you can do.
But sometimes that best requires putting the kids first.
Some people can't do that.

Mollygo Sat 02-Mar-24 14:27:14

Excellent!
We’re back to some people.🤣🤣🤣

Jaberwok Sat 02-Mar-24 14:40:40

'They fuck you up, your Mum and Dad etc', is part of 'This be the verse,' by Phillip Larkin. My personal experience is that they don't, but that's just my experience. I can't speak for other people. Diana also had many affairs and broke up at least three marriages. The royal marriage was a huge mistake and caused much unhappiness for both partys. A fact Prince William as an adult has accepted. Prince Harry as a stunted adult seemingly cannot.

Smileless2012 Sat 02-Mar-24 14:45:53

Sadly lots of people have less than ideal childhoods, it doesn't mean they have to be less than ideal adults.

Callistemon21 Sat 02-Mar-24 15:07:21

Mollygo

Excellent!
We’re back to some people.🤣🤣🤣

Is that a song or another Larkin poem?

Oh yes, it's Cliff! Similar sentiments to the Larking poem though grin

Callistemon21 Sat 02-Mar-24 15:07:48

Larkin.

Bluddy autocorrect.

Jaberwok Sat 02-Mar-24 15:11:32

Callistemon21. 😄😄 I regularly have the same problem!

Anniebach Sat 02-Mar-24 15:12:42

Harry makes money by seemingly not accepting the truth