Trump and dementia - I'm lying awake at night worrying

Gundy

sarahcyn I’m an immigrant (refugee) coming to the US when I was a baby in 1949, now a naturalized citizen. I love my country dearly. To see what has happened since 2015 and all the chaos since Trump’s presidency has everyone on edge, to say the least.

But it’s also all the other things and events in the world that you mentioned that is contributing to the unrest globally. I do feel that everyone is looking at the USA - the strongest country in the world, the protector of democracy and the first responder to catastrophe - to see if we will succumb.

It’s up to the electorate in November - it’s always up to the voters, they are responsible. Most know what Trump will dThat’so in his deranged and demented state, but the other half are sycophantic cult followers. They’re not remembering history nor are they paying attention to the facts, instead choosing to believe disinformation and conspiracy theories.
That’s s the worry here right now. November is still a ways off… anything could happen between now and then.

Try not to lose sleep over things we don’t know about yet. That’s wasted energy. I’m just trying to stay informed and active to make sure people won’t lose hope and will go to the polls.
Pray and wish us luck.
USA Gundy

I’m sure I’m not alone in wish you and your fellow countrymen luck

OldFrill

I suspect the 'telling her she is mentally ill' was in part a response to my mention of catastrophising. There is absolutely no shame in recognising mental health issues and l was simply mentioning my own experiences which seem relevant as it may be useful.
It seems some have a very old fashioned, unhelpful and potentially dangerous attitude towards mental health.

Depression and anxiety ARE mental health illnesses and there’s no shame in having them, or any other mental health condition!

imagine the worst, 'the things i worried about in life mostly never happened' mark twain

I remember in the 1950’s and 60’s how frightened we all were as children because of the Cold War. It was terrifying then.

Is it any worse now?

I am hoping that Nikki Haley stays in the Republican race as long as possible, even though there is no chance of her defeating Trump.

Her opinion of Trump is just about the only one of her opinions that I actually agree with as she is very right wing.

However it seems that most of her supporters are unlikely to ever vote for Trump, although few of them would vote for Biden either. Therefore the more support she gets in the primaries the better

JdotJ

suelld

*JdotJ. “ You're a bundle of joy aren't you “

What a very nasty snide thing to say! I could add more but I won’t!

suelld
If you don't like the answer, don't ask the question.
Do NOT tell me its a very snide thing to say.
Do you think it makes you appear superior by saying ' I could add more but I wont" .... It doesn't!!!
Get off your soapbox

What question? I never asked any question ? I was merely remarking that that was not a very nice thing to say to the Lady who did ask the question and was obviously in distress!

JdotJ

suelld

*JdotJ. “ You're a bundle of joy aren't you “

What a very nasty snide thing to say! I could add more but I won’t!

suelld
If you don't like the answer, don't ask the question.
Do NOT tell me its a very snide thing to say.
Do you think it makes you appear superior by saying ' I could add more but I wont" .... It doesn't!!!
Get off your soapbox

Do NOT tell me its a very snide thing to say.

You obviously feel it's OK to mock the OP with your response, so you'll just have to accept that others might question the deprecatory nature of it.

... it's along the same lines as "if you don't like the answer, don't ask the question - if you don't like the replies, don't make comments that are disparaging to someone who is clearly in some distress, which will inevitably garner a reaction.

Cossy

OldFrill

I suspect the 'telling her she is mentally ill' was in part a response to my mention of catastrophising. There is absolutely no shame in recognising mental health issues and l was simply mentioning my own experiences which seem relevant as it may be useful.
It seems some have a very old fashioned, unhelpful and potentially dangerous attitude towards mental health.

Depression and anxiety ARE mental health illnesses and there’s no shame in having them, or any other mental health condition!

Clinical depression is different from feeling depressed.
Feeling anxious is not anxiety disorder.

It is not up to us to say what is wrong with sarahcyn, that is why I suggested she go and talk to her GP if she is finding this all so overwhelming that she can't cope with day-to-day life.

Cossy

Luckygirl3

I think you are wasting your breath suelld - there are some posts worth ignoring.

I do agree, though I could not stop myself responding

I thought you were super diplomatic Cossy

I agréé
He will negotiate with all the war mongers & find resolution

I have a deep sense of peace since becoming a Christian ten years ago. I know it isn’t for everyone but it sure helps me cope.

There’s always one ( nasty pasty). Just ignore them and/ or feel sorry for them.

I agree grandtante
There should be an age barier to standing for president.
It seems that being a polititian, or an actor for that matter, are roles not deemed important enough to warrant a retirement age.

I'm sorry Saracyn that you bear such worries on your own .

I recommend a month's holiday from media and social media.
If nothing else, it will release time to concentrate on other things.

Having listened to all my friends in the U.S. if A. it seems that they are all for Trump to put right the wrongs if the Biden era! What would worry me is the age of both men wanting to take on such responsibility and the Country accepting that! Even in U.K. I would find it difficult to nominate anyone to be P.M. let alone President!!

I haven’t watched the news for a year….decided that after 73 years I realised I cannot change a thing about the world …so I stopped watching its inevitable decline !
I’m much happier!
My daughter doesn't own a tv and her kids don’t watch news either!
No point!
They are all layers and rogues and deserve one another!

Liars’

In my viewpoint, Trump is scandalous in his actions, a total liar, a maniac filled with hatred, a racist totally against Latin, Asian and Black Americans and has lost all his money in the Manhattan criminal case ..

He is like a "Mafia" and represents a "mad man" ..

Biden, has class and is soft spoken, and though he is not always correct, he is not hateful towards others. He has total protocol and etiquette.

Biden has tried to collaborate with Trump on the "Mexican and Texas / Arizona / California Border problems however, Trump did not wish to hear it or deal with a collaboration. VERY SAD ..

Trump has a serious issue with authority and dictating .. He is not a collaborating with others.

His threats are vulgar, for e.g. " I am going to kill your family" which he stated in court to the witnesses as well as the Prosecutors.

He is in debt up to this carrot top of his head with legal fees and believes he is top gun !!!

My view..

Honestly, OP, steer clear of the news for a while! Or just do a brief catch up via the BBC website - don’t watch or listen to it.

My dh positively wallows in news, he has it on much of the time*, and unlike me, it doesn’t really bother or depress him. But I do mostly keep clear now.
*mostly in his lair, aka study, so I don’t have to be bombarded with it.

Totally agree with the previous poster. Ditch the news, laying awake at night and worrying is not going to help anyone. Most people I know limit their exposure to news. Bear in mind that the 24 hour news stations have to find something to talk about. 15 mins is enough and then go and enjoy your life. It's the only one you have.

As Morrisey said, Stop watching the news, as the news contrives to frighten you

I agree with your description of Trump Frenchgalinspain

I worry a lot bout the state of sanity in the USA that there is even a chance of Trump being re-elected.

But what can we do?

It seems that perhaps 20% or more of the US electorate are Trump cult followers, brainwashed beyond redemption.

All we can do is to encourage the apathetic Americans to register to vote and not allow their country to slide into a dictatorship.

Just to say a big thanks to all of you who responded to my post, all very kindly meant.
I don't take any offence at having my mental health questioned - I don't consider it a stigma. As I said in my original post I am aware of the "downward spiral" phenomenon, also I'm aware that I'm prone to "catastrophising". I'm wondering about going back on antidepressants but on the other hand, Sertraline won't deal with the bad smell from the drains, will it?
But the responses to my post I cannot ever agree with are those of you, again well-meaning, advising me to avoid the news. I think it is very important to be properly informed and to get news from more than one reputable source, which is why I have a wide political spectrum of British newspaper and broadcaster apps on my iphone. Those of you who are retired and maybe have "leisure" (yes, I know it never feels like it!) have no excuse to bury your heads in the sand.
What is happening in America is the result of a breakdown of trust in professional news journalism, a breakdown which has been keenly encouraged by Trump. It's a terribly polarised society now and each side only listens to one source, which is disastrous.
I saw a hilarious -well, it would be hilarious if it wasn't so terrifying - clip of a reporter asking Trump supporters their opinion of a selection of ridiculous quotes allegedly by Biden. They poured scorn on the quotes - "he's got dementia" etc. Then the reporter said "Oh, sorry, I have my notes muddled up - can we start again? These are comments by President Trump" - and the Trump supporters changed their attitude to one of respectful acceptance, without missing a beat.

Two interesting points of view:
Nikki Haley said earlier in the campaign that "the party which is the first to ditch its octogenarian candidate will be the party that wins".
The BBC's USA correspondent Justin Webb thinks that neither Trump nor Biden will be in the race come November.

To the person who said "Trump knows right from wrong" - you are obviously a bot and shouldn't be on Gransnet. How's the weather in Moscow?

.varian For the record - Trump’s sycophantic MAGA following is actually more like 40% (not 20%).

If only it were 20%, the country might no be as anxious then.
USA Gundy

Gundy

.varian For the record - Trump’s sycophantic MAGA following is actually more like 40% (not 20%).

If only it were 20%, the country might no be as anxious then.
USA Gundy

Not just the group mentioned above.
The black and Latino vote are deserting Biden.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/01/trump-biden-latino-voters-poll

Well they know the answer. Get rid of Biden. Trump wouldn’t have a hope if they got someone half decent but they don’t,do they?