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How did we get BoJo as PM on Channel 4

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Grantanow Thu 07-Mar-24 09:45:30

Don't miss the Channel 4 documentary at 9 pm on the Rise and Fall of BoJo. Last night's first episode was remarkable and that's an understatement.

MayBee70 Mon 11-Mar-24 13:01:01

Dickens

My gripe against Johnson is that he transferred so much power to that malevolent and destructive force - Dominic Cummings - giving him universal power over government.

And I believe he did that because he had no appetite for the behind-the-scenes, nitty-gritty, tedium of 'getting Brexit done', preferring the accolade of his supporters and admirers as he traipsed around the country donning aprons, hard-hats - all the various apparel worn by workers in the businesses he visited, giving the impression that he was a 'man of the people'.

I don't believe his heart was in Brexit any more than it would have been in Remain, had that been the outcome. In my opinion - which is just that, an opinion - either outcome would serve as a vehicle to get Johnson where he wanted to be, into Number 10.

Brexit was always going to be a huge constitutional change to our way of life, Johnson bounced around the country grinning, jocular, energised and buoyant - because he was never going to be much involved with the dreary monotony of the fine-print of Brexit. He was king and he had a retinue of courtiers for that - including Cummings, the Chief of the Court.

I would not say he's the worst PM we've ever had, that crown goes to Liz Truss. Boris Johnson did not inflict Brexit on the nation - it had already decided - but Truss, out of the blue-yonder, made an economic decision that millions are now paying for.

He had no choice though because Cummings was his kingmaker. Who planned to depose him as soon as possible.

Dickens Tue 12-Mar-24 14:16:17

MayBee70

Dickens

My gripe against Johnson is that he transferred so much power to that malevolent and destructive force - Dominic Cummings - giving him universal power over government.

And I believe he did that because he had no appetite for the behind-the-scenes, nitty-gritty, tedium of 'getting Brexit done', preferring the accolade of his supporters and admirers as he traipsed around the country donning aprons, hard-hats - all the various apparel worn by workers in the businesses he visited, giving the impression that he was a 'man of the people'.

I don't believe his heart was in Brexit any more than it would have been in Remain, had that been the outcome. In my opinion - which is just that, an opinion - either outcome would serve as a vehicle to get Johnson where he wanted to be, into Number 10.

Brexit was always going to be a huge constitutional change to our way of life, Johnson bounced around the country grinning, jocular, energised and buoyant - because he was never going to be much involved with the dreary monotony of the fine-print of Brexit. He was king and he had a retinue of courtiers for that - including Cummings, the Chief of the Court.

I would not say he's the worst PM we've ever had, that crown goes to Liz Truss. Boris Johnson did not inflict Brexit on the nation - it had already decided - but Truss, out of the blue-yonder, made an economic decision that millions are now paying for.

He had no choice though because Cummings was his kingmaker. Who planned to depose him as soon as possible.

He had no choice though because Cummings was his kingmaker. Who planned to depose him as soon as possible.

There's a moral in there somewhere...

MayBee70 Tue 12-Mar-24 16:26:18

There would be if anything about morality applied to either of them!

Cossy Tue 12-Mar-24 17:12:11

MayBee70

There would be if anything about morality applied to either of them!

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