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Pro Palestinian supporters destroy painting of Lord Balfour

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GrannyGravy13 Fri 08-Mar-24 16:12:27

This happened today at Trinity College, Cambridge University.

Totally unacceptable and unjustifiable.

Glorianny Sat 09-Mar-24 12:53:07

It isn't "destroyed" it is damaged. There is a long history of women damaging art as a protest. The Rokeby Venus was slashed many times by a suffragette. It's been repaired and the damage scarcely shows womensarttours.com/slashing-venus-suffragettes-and-vandalism/

Paintings can be restored. The thousands of Palestinians killed and injured, and those who have lived through this nightmare can never be repaired.
I know where my sympathies lie.

maddyone Sat 09-Mar-24 12:54:11

I find the approval of the destruction of a displayed painting, hung up for visitors to view, very, very strange. There are other ways to protest, although I’m heartily sick of seeing the almost weekly marches in London (and elsewhere) and frankly I think they should be stopped. When we’ve reached the stage of Palestinian flags draped over lampposts down the streets of London, it’s gone too far. Destroying a painting has gone too far.
When I see weekly marches in support of the Ukrainians, I’ll reconsider.

maddyone Sat 09-Mar-24 12:54:46

Okay damaged. Still no excuse!

Glorianny Sat 09-Mar-24 12:56:48

maddyone

I find the approval of the destruction of a displayed painting, hung up for visitors to view, very, very strange. There are other ways to protest, although I’m heartily sick of seeing the almost weekly marches in London (and elsewhere) and frankly I think they should be stopped. When we’ve reached the stage of Palestinian flags draped over lampposts down the streets of London, it’s gone too far. Destroying a painting has gone too far.
When I see weekly marches in support of the Ukrainians, I’ll reconsider.

maddyone we are providing Ukranians with weapons and support, we have taken in those who had to leave the country. Nothing has been done to support the Palestinians that's why people are acting.

paddyann54 Sat 09-Mar-24 13:04:30

maddyone Ukraine has been at war for over two years and has had huge support from the west.Palestinians have been treated abominably for 7 decades by Israel .UN resolutions have been ignored time after time,currently almost 3000 palestinians are being held in Israeli jails ...most without charge many of them children.Where in INTERNATIONAL law is this treatment of innocent people, trying to go about their lives under the worst of circumstances ,not just ALLOWED but accepted ? I despair of many of the people on this site who are of an age where they SHOULD have learned the facts .ISRAEL is the agressor Palestinians have been victims for certainly all of my life yet we haven't stopped selling or giving them weapons and sanctions haven't been brought against them.WHY?

Galaxy Sat 09-Mar-24 13:08:09

If you approved of me I would be devastated Paddyann.

paddyann54 Sat 09-Mar-24 13:08:52

Remember the old advert ,A picture paints a thousand words? Does THIS picture of a man who made massive mistakes and DIDN'T rectify them,worth tens of thousands of lives including babies,young children and innocent people who just want a decent life.I ask again WHY aren't we bringing the government of Israel to book ?

GrannyGravy13 Sat 09-Mar-24 13:14:11

I am amazed that posters are happy to condone vandalism just because it is in the name of a cause thy support, with the added

There is a long history of women damaging art as a protest

and

it can be restored

It is an illegal act with the intention to destruct an artwork, no ifs or buts.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 09-Mar-24 13:21:59

👏👏👏 It is indefensible.

Anniebach Sat 09-Mar-24 13:25:07

Definitely an illegal act

Joseann Sat 09-Mar-24 13:27:57

Thismight make new generations take a fresh look
What? By damaging property in an educational institution? I don't care who protests, nor about their cause, that's their business, but there's a time, a place and a manner.

Anniebach Sat 09-Mar-24 13:38:02

They are no different to the stop oil protestors

Glorianny Sat 09-Mar-24 13:42:22

GrannyGravy13

I am amazed that posters are happy to condone vandalism just because it is in the name of a cause thy support, with the added

There is a long history of women damaging art as a protest

and

it can be restored

It is an illegal act with the intention to destruct an artwork, no ifs or buts.

So was the damaging of the Rokeby Venus, arguably a much more important painting, in a far less important cause.

It may be illegal.
But there is such a thing as moral justice and in this case that prevails over legal justice. It is immoral to sit by and watch a people being destroyed.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 09-Mar-24 13:45:22

Glorianny you are trying to defend the indefensible and failing…

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 09-Mar-24 13:57:50

Nothing new there …

Ilovecheese Sat 09-Mar-24 14:02:29

GrannyGravy13

Ilovecheese

Why have you put "supporters " as plural when it was one person only?

When I first saw this story online they were saying supporters news stories change/evolve as more facts become available.

I am glad you have cleared that up, thank you. I think it shows how the press try to influence public opinion, they are trying to paint all the people who support Palestine as vandals. Which, of course, they are not.

Anniebach Sat 09-Mar-24 14:15:03

I very doubt the press would claim 3,000 were in attendance

ronib Sat 09-Mar-24 14:33:09

Glorianny vandalising a painting has done zilch to end the war. I mean if wars were ended by destroying paintings, let’s burn the lot. The grown ups in the room know this won’t happen.

Freya5 Sat 09-Mar-24 14:36:29

Aveline

It got them noticed but in a very negative way. It risks painting pro Palestinian protesters as vandalous idiots.

Well obviously some of them are, aren't they. Hope they are quickly found, made to pay for the damage, ha ha, kicked out of Uni, and case heard by someone who is independant of political bias, unlike the judge who let two terrorist sympathisers off the hook.

Anniebach Sat 09-Mar-24 14:37:38

I am sure Glorianny doesn’t think destroying a painting would stop war.

pascal30 Sat 09-Mar-24 14:41:17

Anniebach

I am sure Glorianny doesn’t think destroying a painting would stop war.

No I don't think that was the point of her posts either

Rosie51 Sat 09-Mar-24 14:52:05

Condoning vandalism and criminality because the offender shares your view is the thin end of the wedge. Unless you support all vandalism done in the name of any protest you are being hypocritical.

Glorianny Sat 09-Mar-24 14:52:31

Of course it won't end the war but if a quarter of the disgust that has been aimed at the one woman who damaged (and did not destroy ) a painting, had been. aimed at the country currently slaughtering thousands of innocent people then perhaps that slaughter would have been stopped.
Or at the very least our government would not have become complicit in what may well turn out to be war crimes. Allowing Israeli military planes to land in the UK and training Israeli military personnel. www.declassifieduk.org/uk-refuses-to-disclose-what-israeli-military-planes-landing-in-britain-have-onboard/#:~:text=The%20UK%20government%20admitted%20last,
That's far more worrying to me than any painting being damaged

Glorianny Sat 09-Mar-24 14:54:41

Rosie51

Condoning vandalism and criminality because the offender shares your view is the thin end of the wedge. Unless you support all vandalism done in the name of any protest you are being hypocritical.

Well I'd support the suffragette who damaged the Rokeby Venus, although I think it's a much more important and better painting than the one of Lord Balfour.

ronib Sat 09-Mar-24 14:57:45

Glorianny. A quarter of the disgust? Why stop there? How about a billion times more disgusted over any war, any death. Okay? Or a trillion times more? So disgusted enough? How many lives saved? Zero.