Gransnet forums

News & politics

Pro Palestinian supporters destroy painting of Lord Balfour

(117 Posts)
GrannyGravy13 Fri 08-Mar-24 16:12:27

This happened today at Trinity College, Cambridge University.

Totally unacceptable and unjustifiable.

Glorianny Sat 09-Mar-24 15:08:16

ronib

*Glorianny*. A quarter of the disgust? Why stop there? How about a billion times more disgusted over any war, any death. Okay? Or a trillion times more? So disgusted enough? How many lives saved? Zero.

That is ignoring the UK's complicity of course. That's the difficult thing to deal with.

Glorianny Sat 09-Mar-24 15:38:51

One of the reasons the suffragettes chose to stone throw, set fires, let off bombs and damage paintings was because they said men cared more for property than people, I wonder how they would feel to find that 100 years later so do a lot of women.

Louella12 Sat 09-Mar-24 15:45:12

Working class ( most) men didn't have the vote either.

Nobody ever talks about that

Rosie51 Sat 09-Mar-24 15:56:25

Glorianny

One of the reasons the suffragettes chose to stone throw, set fires, let off bombs and damage paintings was because they said men cared more for property than people, I wonder how they would feel to find that 100 years later so do a lot of women.

That's incredibly offensive! Condemning vandalism does not equate to valuing property over people and it's quite disgusting of you to imply otherwise. I don't think there is one single woman on these forums that doesn't find the loss of the lives in the middle east and elsewhere tragic and distressing.
If ripping that painting to shreds would actually save lives I'd be there helping as I'm sure would others, but it won't. It's just someone feeding their ego.

Urmstongran Sat 09-Mar-24 16:02:21

Well paddyanne according to WHO statistics male life expectancy is lower in Scotland than it is in Gaza! Scottish voters may want to ponder on that for a bit.

ronib Sat 09-Mar-24 16:35:11

Glorianny. Wanting effective action, wanting all this fighting to stop on all sides regardless of blame doesn’t mean it will happen any time soon sadly. So far, it’s stalemate. Slashing paintings is of no consequence. Hardly helpful is it?

paddyann54 Sat 09-Mar-24 21:00:42

Thats your UK for you Urms....over 300 years of English rule and look at the mess we're in..Thatcher didn't help by destroying our industry either.PLEASE dont say we've had devolution for 20 years ....we've had a miniscule amount of power over mainly inconsequential things while WM holds the pursestrings and we have to more or less beg for funding.We have around 8% of the population yet this years Barnet payement NOT GRANT .it comes from our own income This year we're getting close to 3 .5 % of UK income as our "share"
I'd love to see the shower of crooks at WM have to live on 3.5% of the income instead they steal and borrow and are Trillions of pounds in debt .
ANY Scottish voter with half a working brain knows we'd be better off on our own.I DO wonder WHY WM doesn't want us to go?

Anniebach Sat 09-Mar-24 21:10:01

One arrest shown on the news this evening, a man with a placard stating Hamas are terrorists

Freya5 Sat 09-Mar-24 21:38:53

Anniebach

One arrest shown on the news this evening, a man with a placard stating Hamas are terrorists

Strange isn't it. Yet flying banned terrorist flags are allowed to carry on. This man was speaking the truth, Hamas has been declared terrorists.
Poor chap jailed for printing leaflets, 2 tears.
The police in London are Islamist sympathisers.

Glorianny Sat 09-Mar-24 21:43:02

The man was arrested for assault because there was an affray. He was later de-arrested when the police viewed the film footage. It's a non-story.

Anniebach Sat 09-Mar-24 21:45:38

Freya so frightening, a man can be arrested for speaking the truth, obvious from the first march where the police stood .

flappergirl Sat 09-Mar-24 22:17:28

Lord Balfour supported the concentration camps of the Boer war and the importation of "Chinese indentured labour" to South Africa.

I'm guessing that many people on this thread were horrified at the toppling of Edward Colton's statue (the slave trader who took pride of place in the centre of Bristol). That single act began the first serious conversations around the inequality in the city (as highlighted by the Runnymede report) and the introduction of the One Curriculum in local schools.

Small but essential steps from an act of "vandalism".

nanna8 Sat 09-Mar-24 22:24:33

The trouble is that it distracts people from a very real issue and makes them not sympathetic at all. I think they are basically vandals and I am sure those who are genuinely concerned about lives lost and starvation in Gaza would not support them. They are damaging not just the statues but their whole cause.

Anniebach Sat 09-Mar-24 22:31:19

The attack on the painting wasn’t in support of Palastine !

Glorianny Sat 09-Mar-24 22:40:47

Anniebach

Freya so frightening, a man can be arrested for speaking the truth, obvious from the first march where the police stood .

He wasn't arrested for speaking anything, He was arrested because there was fighting and de-arrested when his part in it became obvious.

Anniebach Sat 09-Mar-24 22:45:21

So how many were arrested ?

Galaxy Sat 09-Mar-24 22:52:24

Ha the use of the word non story is always telling.

merlotgran Sat 09-Mar-24 23:00:40

The police in London are Islamist sympathisers.

Nonsense!

Anniebach Sat 09-Mar-24 23:03:49

If not sympathisers then fear ?

maddyone Sat 09-Mar-24 23:40:35

Glorianny

The man was arrested for assault because there was an affray. He was later de-arrested when the police viewed the film footage. It's a non-story.

The man was arrested because a group of the marchers didn’t like the placard he was carrying and set about him. That’s why there was an affray! Then he was arrested for assault, but guess what, when the footage was viewed he didn’t assault anyone! So why weren’t those who actually caused the affray arrested? I suggest that someone above the ordinary police on the street have instructed them to go easy on them. That’s why!

Anniebach Sat 09-Mar-24 23:54:11

A non story ? Not the truth Glorianny was it ?

Jews must be so fearful

Rosie51 Sat 09-Mar-24 23:57:08

I suggest that someone above the ordinary police on the street have instructed them to go easy on them. you wouldn't be wrong. Thank goodness my son is no longer a uniformed office patrolling our streets. Who knew I'd need to give so many thanks when he moved into the detective arena!

Freya5 Sun 10-Mar-24 08:40:11

merlotgran

^The police in London are Islamist sympathisers.^

Nonsense!

So why didnt they arrest those carrying a banned flag, come on tell us.

Stansgran Sun 10-Mar-24 09:04:09

I care more for the damage of an artists work. I dislike intensely the religious doctrine in the Middle East.

Anniebach Sun 10-Mar-24 09:37:49

The police denied the arrest of the man was for his criticism of
Hamas, - they would say that wouldn’t they