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Princess of Wales has cancer

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Primrose53 Fri 22-Mar-24 18:05:31

News flash just now but she says she feels really well and she looks it.

Starting chemo soon. The abdominal surgery found cancer.

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fancythat Sun 24-Mar-24 17:37:10

I did not "excuse them".
Personally, I barely have seen any.
I had to look them up the other day, as didnt know what people were talking about.

But I am not naive enough to assume there wont be all sorts of nasty stuff.
And trolls etc etc

But yes, it all goes with the territory.
Sorry about that.
If you are a celeb/well known person, people talk.

Are you personally able to stop the talk? Are you able to stop even one person?

Kate1949 Sun 24-Mar-24 17:42:33

Like it or not it does go with the territory. It's not excusing it because it's horrible. Unfortunately there are some nasty people out there.

Anniebach Sun 24-Mar-24 17:53:08

It is excusing it,

Kate1949 Sun 24-Mar-24 18:07:21

I'm not sure what can be done about it Annie.

Anniebach Sun 24-Mar-24 18:10:45

Kate we cannot change it but we do not have to accept it, it
is cruel and so vicious

Dickens Sun 24-Mar-24 18:23:12

Mollygo

JaneJudge
I felt sad she was forced to address the nation. It must be difficult enough, privilege or not, without the whole world knowing

fancythat
She is a world-wide figure.
Sadly, it comes with the teritory.

Callistemon21
No, it's intrusive.

We had no need to know exact medical details, only that Catherine would not be working or seen in public for a while.

That post @16:08 sums up what is going on in the media.

An understanding of how hard it is to have people expecting to know intimate details of your personal life.
Followed by
The dismissal of any right to have personal details which you don’t want to share.

Followed by
The truth that it is intrusive to demand such personal details and a suggestion of what we really only needed to know.
The media definitely followed the second section when they asked
“What haven’t we been told?”

Oh well said Mollygo.

Anyone who is diagnosed with cancer - anyone - has the right to disseminate that information to those involved at their own pace.

Most of us - especially with children / grandchildren - would prefer to make the choice as to when (or even "if") we tell them.

"It goes with the territory"... No, it does not. There is no written constitutional rule that the monarchy must inform the general public of the nature of their disease, should they suffer from one.

It-goes-with-the-territory is a polite way of saying tough sh*t Catherine, the public's shallow inquisitiveness is more important than you deciding when to talk to your children about it.

"What haven't we been told" is the clarion cry of the conspiracy theorists and the eternally prying busybodies who, once they have the information they demand to know, will pick over it like a flock of vultures, looking for tidbits on which to further theorise and speculate.

As I keep pointing out (not that it's really relevant) I'm a republican - I even question myself why I feel so strongly about this, but I do.

Maybe because the sight of a media and public hounding a woman at probably the most vulnerable time in her life is at the very least unpleasant, and at its worst, ugly.

fancythat Sun 24-Mar-24 18:27:59

I am going to repeat what I said a few posts ago.
Then I will leave things go.

^I know it is intrusive.
I know we dont need to know exact medical details.

But Catherine herself felt forced to address the nation, as JaneJudge says.

As others have said, a few posts above, neither you nor I can stop people talking.
The longer the silences, the worse it all became.^

fancythat Sun 24-Mar-24 18:28:50

Catherine herself chose to tell. She in no way had to.

fancythat Sun 24-Mar-24 18:31:40

Sadly, it comes with the territory, is referring to she is a world wide figure, and therefore people will talk. Even you and everyone on this thread.

I kept quiet for 1 and a half days. I think a few others are doing the same.
But we are but a minute number.

Iam64 Sun 24-Mar-24 18:40:30

I see even the odious Owen Jones as apologised for his part in hounding ‘where’s Kate’.
Catherine is hugely popular. Ive found myself liking and admiring the way she fulfills the challenging job that goes with being married to one future king and mother to another.
We faced the awful reality of my lovely husband’s devastating diagnosis, together. We agonised over when to tell our adult children, never mind grandchildren. My husband was 71 not 42, but we’d thought very fit, he walked 10miles the day before the unexpected diagnosis. There are many of us on the forum who’ve travelled with cancer. Thank goodness not in the full glare of international publicity.
The way Catherine wrote and delivered her speech reminded me if the Queen.
I don’t defend our societies obsession with celebs but her presentation showed the way. That’s what is being talked about now

Kate1949 Sun 24-Mar-24 18:41:53

I understand what you are saying Annie. What I was trying to say was, I'm not sure how we can stop these vile people. There are so many of them.

Anniebach Sun 24-Mar-24 18:45:05

Kate we can only say it’s so wrong , if only we could do more

Kate1949 Sun 24-Mar-24 18:46:41

Comments like 'where's Kate?' we're so ignorant. As if she would just disappear for no reason. As I said earlier, it was obvious that there was something very, very wrong.

Dickens Sun 24-Mar-24 19:08:03

fancythat

Catherine herself chose to tell. She in no way had to.

If it's true that staff at the hospital where Catherine underwent her surgery attempted to look at her medical history - an event she would be informed about - I'm sure that would have had an impact on her decision to make the announcement.

Of course, no one forced her to make the announcement, but she might have felt that if she didn't - others would.

So, in that respect, it's not quite true that she "in no way had to", is it?

Cabbie21 Sun 24-Mar-24 19:09:52

I sincerely hope that both the Princess of Wales and the King’s cancers have been found early enough and that their treatment will eradicate the disease.
I am sorry that the PoW has been hounded and harried by the press and others who have no business to know. But if telling us all also encourages people to get possible symptoms checked sooner rather than later, then that is good. And maybe takes some of the fear away and gives hope. Thankfully cancer is not always terminal now - but some other illnesses are, and nobody can say who will be affected. We all need to be kinder to each other.

PuddyCat Sun 24-Mar-24 19:24:37

I kept quiet for 1 and a half days.

If only it could have been for longer.

Anniebach Sun 24-Mar-24 19:56:16

I do not think of the Prince and Princess of Wales as celebrities,
was the late Queen a celebrity,is Anne ?

Iam64 Sun 24-Mar-24 19:59:52

Anniebach, you don’t see them as celebs, neither do I or most posters here
Most people do

Anniebach Sun 24-Mar-24 20:10:04

Sorry Iam yes you are right,suppose it’s because of their age,
they certainly don’t crave the limelight, both are very private
people

fancythat Sun 24-Mar-24 20:42:53

Anniebach

I do not think of the Prince and Princess of Wales as celebrities,
was the late Queen a celebrity,is Anne ?

I was going to keep quiet.
But I have changed my mind.

I wrote this
If you are a celeb/well known person, people talk.

Yet you have deliberately chosen to ignore the well known person bit.

So I can now see you play word games.
I didnt realise that.
I have not spotted it on posts on GN before.

So now I know. I wonbt be making the same mistake again.

There will now be some or one or however many who will pick on another word in here.

Okie dokie. Do your worst.

I dont play such games.

Have a good evening.

Jane43 Sun 24-Mar-24 20:45:32

fancythat

Catherine herself chose to tell. She in no way had to.

It was going to be breaking news in the USA, that’s why she had to talk about it.

Galaxy Sun 24-Mar-24 21:01:06

I see them as celebrities. I have no idea how else I would see them. Their lives have been a soap opera for years, weddings, babies, divorce, the 'goodies' and the 'baddies' as decided on a daily basis by the public. That's what's been created.

Dickens Sun 24-Mar-24 21:07:29

Jane43

fancythat

Catherine herself chose to tell. She in no way had to.

It was going to be breaking news in the USA, that’s why she had to talk about it.

She was faced with a "choice" that we used to describe as "Hobson's Choice".

... which is a choice where really there isn't one, it's just an illusion.

As you point out, either she broke the news - or those nice individuals in the media would have done.

Some choice!

Iam64 Sun 24-Mar-24 21:15:04

I fear you’re right Dickens - that’s what’s been created. It reflects todays celebrity culture

Anniebach Sun 24-Mar-24 21:17:24

galaxy Sun 24-Mar-24 21:01:06
I see them as celebrities. I have no idea how else I would see them. Their lives have been a soap opera for years, weddings, babies, divorce, the 'goodies' and the 'baddies' as decided on a daily basis by the public. That's what's been created.

Does not every family have weddings, divorce, goodies and baddies?