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sodapop Sat 30-Mar-24 15:14:58

Did anyone else hear or read about the school photographer taking class pictures at a school which had able and disabled children attending. Apparently he/she contacted the parents of the non disabled children asking them if they wanted the children with disabilities removed from their pictures. I am appalled that anyone could even think of this let alone do it.

TinSoldier Sun 31-Mar-24 11:04:46

This reminds me of the Ford story from years ago where black and brown faces in a publicity photo were removed and replaced by white ones for a sales brochure. Here’s a reminder:

www.independent.co.uk/news/ford-workers-angry-as-blacks-are-whited-out-1320079.html

www.theguardian.com/business/1999/oct/26/ford.raceintheuk

biglouis Sun 31-Mar-24 03:08:41

Wonder if the photographer goes around suggesting "improvements" to guests when they do wedding photography.

OldFrill Sun 31-Mar-24 00:43:04

There is conflicting information in the media as to what photos were taken when and what editing was done.
Nicola Pinnell stated that her daughter had been "erased" from photographs. Tempest say photos with and without the disabled pupils were taken. Everyone is very sorry. Doubt we will ever really know the truth.

Callistemon21 Sat 30-Mar-24 22:11:57

growstuff

Callistemon21

Joseann

Callistemon21

The editing would have been done afterwards online.

But wouldn't that leave gaps in the original?

I suppose it depends how they arranged the original photos.
Not all editing is clumsy.

Apparently, two separate photos were taken of the class.

I didn't read that, so I was assuming. So the teachers knew about this and were complicit?

Never assume anything.

Oreo Sat 30-Mar-24 21:30:55

Bet the photographer wasn’t a woman.😡

Dickens Sat 30-Mar-24 21:07:14

Rosie51

growstuff

Callistemon21

Joseann

Callistemon21

The editing would have been done afterwards online.

But wouldn't that leave gaps in the original?

I suppose it depends how they arranged the original photos.
Not all editing is clumsy.

Apparently, two separate photos were taken of the class.

That's what I read too. One photo was taken of the class before the children with extra needs arrived, at which point another photo was taken with all the children. I am not "school bashing" but surely there had to be a member of the school staff present? I would have expected that staff member to say to the photographer that they must wait until all the class was present before taking any photo.
As for the little girl and her glasses, what a way to teach her that her glasses render her not pretty. I wonder if a little boy would have received a similar comment?

As for the little girl and her glasses, what a way to teach her that her glasses render her not pretty. I wonder if a little boy would have received a similar comment?

Yes, it just adds another layer of insult doesn't it - a bit of old-fashioned misogyny thrown in for good measure... acclimatising little girls to the notion that their value is in being "pretty".

It occurred to me that asking a child to remove their glasses could possibly be dangerous. If the child has a serious vision problem and, for some reason, decided to just wander off after the photo' session, having removed the glasses could be a problem.

Actually a complete stranger (to the child) should never ask them to take off their specs.

And anyway, don't quite a few children wear glasses?

I'm really surprised in this day and age that anyone would be so blatantly discriminatory.

Rosie51 Sat 30-Mar-24 20:05:18

growstuff

Callistemon21

Joseann

Callistemon21

The editing would have been done afterwards online.

But wouldn't that leave gaps in the original?

I suppose it depends how they arranged the original photos.
Not all editing is clumsy.

Apparently, two separate photos were taken of the class.

That's what I read too. One photo was taken of the class before the children with extra needs arrived, at which point another photo was taken with all the children. I am not "school bashing" but surely there had to be a member of the school staff present? I would have expected that staff member to say to the photographer that they must wait until all the class was present before taking any photo.
As for the little girl and her glasses, what a way to teach her that her glasses render her not pretty. I wonder if a little boy would have received a similar comment?

growstuff Sat 30-Mar-24 19:55:11

Callistemon21

Joseann

Callistemon21

The editing would have been done afterwards online.

But wouldn't that leave gaps in the original?

I suppose it depends how they arranged the original photos.
Not all editing is clumsy.

Apparently, two separate photos were taken of the class.

Joseann Sat 30-Mar-24 19:48:12

Galaxy

Yeah my guess is schools will be frantically looking for new suppliers.

Luckily in this day and age there are loads to choose from.

Joseann Sat 30-Mar-24 19:43:55

No one is school bashing, I hope it is just a mistake or that there is a logical explanation like groups being split up and photographed at different times. We don't know what happened.
What I will say though, is that schools should "manage" or "direct" anyone invited onto their premises who has contact with the children - caterers, photographers etc- and make it very clear what the school's expectations are. School photographers take their instructions from the school, they don’t have free rein to decide for themselves. The photo options should be discussed with staff who know the children beforehand. teachers have nothing to do with it, not head teachers nor office staff would be poor practice in my eyes. That is not school bashing.

Galaxy Sat 30-Mar-24 19:38:16

Yeah my guess is schools will be frantically looking for new suppliers.

Grandmabatty Sat 30-Mar-24 19:29:00

Schools only act as a venue for the photographs and a way of collecting the money. Teachers have nothing to do with it, not head teachers nor office staff. Sample photos are sent to parents and all interactions are between the parents and the company. Please stop school bashing. I would expect that schools will think very seriously about using Tempest in future, indeed they may pull out of school photos altogether.

Callistemon21 Sat 30-Mar-24 18:27:36

Joseann

Yes, OldFrill, but the photographer shows the photos to a member of staff for inspection before they leave. The school spots any problems then before they are put on the portal.

They would not have been edited at that point.

Callistemon21 Sat 30-Mar-24 18:26:44

Joseann

Callistemon21

The editing would have been done afterwards online.

But wouldn't that leave gaps in the original?

I suppose it depends how they arranged the original photos.
Not all editing is clumsy.

Dinahmo Sat 30-Mar-24 18:18:07

Sally Philips has a son with Downs Syndrome. Here's what happened when she took him to a play centre in Acton so that he could use the trampoline.

www.theguardian.com/society/2024/mar/29/sally-phillips-so-upset-after-son-with-downs-syndrome-rejected-by-trampoline-park

Joseann Sat 30-Mar-24 18:18:06

Callistemon21

The editing would have been done afterwards online.

But wouldn't that leave gaps in the original?

Georgesgran Sat 30-Mar-24 18:17:33

Appalling.

Joseann Sat 30-Mar-24 18:16:52

Yes, OldFrill, but the photographer shows the photos to a member of staff for inspection before they leave. The school spots any problems then before they are put on the portal.

Callistemon21 Sat 30-Mar-24 18:13:54

The editing would have been done afterwards online.

OldFrill Sat 30-Mar-24 18:12:44

Joseann

I would expect my class teachers to be present during the photographic sessions. Where was she?

The photographs were edited, they weren't taken separately. The mother of one of the disabled children was on TV and said there were two photographs and her daughter had been edited out of one. She was bereft they had done that.

JaneJudge Sat 30-Mar-24 18:11:57

Joseann

I would expect my class teachers to be present during the photographic sessions. Where was she?

OR HE

maybe s/he took their glasses off also and didn't know where they were but they looked pretty for their Mummy

honestly this story gets more disgusting the more I hear!

Cossy Sat 30-Mar-24 18:09:53

Whoever was responsible, it’s utterly appalling and completely unacceptable! I heard one of the mothers of one of the disabled children on the radio, she was very upset and disgusted.

Joseann Sat 30-Mar-24 18:06:31

I would expect my class teachers to be present during the photographic sessions. Where was she?

OldFrill Sat 30-Mar-24 18:02:45

As has been said, potential purchasers log onto the photographer's website, and use a code to access/order the photographs. No details are supplied by the school

Callistemon21 Sat 30-Mar-24 18:02:19

Apparently one little girl has impaired vision and wears thick glasses, the photographer suggested she took them off " to look pretty for her Mummy" dreadful.
shock