Dr. Hilary Cass - report re trans.

Oops. That was meant to go on the other thread. I'll post it on there and ask for it to be deleted from this one.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Mollygo the other issue, so far as I’m aware, was inspectors heard racist comments from pupils in corridors
I’m not trying to make something of nothing. My adult children were happy at this school. Friends teach there

Sorry, I’ve googled schools given requires improvement or that have gone from outstanding to requires improvement because of mis- pronouning and still have no evidence. Of course it could have been part of a greater need for improvement in the school overall which case it will take longer to identify from their OFSTED reports.

Mollygo - friends teach there

It seems to me that the hardest job of all is taking DEI out of teacher training and schools.

Whilst schools pass the responsibility for (sorry forgotten the proper terminology), sex ed over to charities (with vested interests), who use business models to make money based on sales and services, (which most schools have to buy).
Whilst said schools themselves take no responsibility for the outcomes.
There seems no incentive to buck this system.

Continually bouncing the problem back to the gov., who only call for reports, and inquiries, but do very little but carry on wasting our tax money paying the very charities who are spreading this ideology.

We watch on with very little power, and become grateful little comrades when those on high (choose any politician you care to, I'm going to mention K Badenogh) deign to throw us a bone in the shape of a word (woman, mother, female?).

But still finance 6-8 gender care clinics through out the country.

Sometimes, just sometimes I feel we are being played.

I could go on, but the be all and end all from my perspective, is to rid ourselves of DEI which Stonewall and others hide behind.

Sorry lecture over.

Iam64
A good/outstanding local school needs improvement after a member of staff mis-pronound a child.

Evidence?

Strategic bump for t***l avoidance.

Iam64

A good/outstanding local school needs improvement after a member of staff mis-pronound a child

What rubbish.
My name has two spellings, one much more usual than the other which is the one my parents chose. Would my teachers who sometimes misspelled my name have been guilty of a transgression against my identity? Of course not, they just used the common spelling that would more readily come to mind, especially if they were rushed. Referring to a child by the sex you know them to be rather than the identity they've chosen to adopt is instinctive, and would come more naturally.
Have none of these academics heard of the Stroop effect?

A good/outstanding local school needs improvement after a member of staff mis-pronound a child

I don't dispute that.

The point I am making is that people, including teachers will follow insructions as to what they are to do, even when they profoundly disagree, or it is something beyond their normal remit, for fear of being seen to be different and a usually unfounded fear of the consequences.

The kindof people who pile in to anyone who does disagree because it frightens them.

I'm not sure what point you're making, M0nica, although I agree with what you say about compliance. The question was about what evidence there is that teachers have been complicit in disseminating the trans agenda though - not their motives for doing so.

It is definitely fair to say that it is difficult for people to stand up to the dogma though. This article shows how pervasive it has been.

Why I have teachers just complied? It has nothing to do with them being teachers per se. It has much more to do with how people will conform, for fear of being singled out.

Years ago, after staff problems where I worked, it was suggested that we should opt for a union coming into the work place. This was agreed, then the director called a staff meeting to discuss the issue and in a company of about 100, most of whom supported the staff becoming unionised, only 3 of us were prepared to speak out for the motion when the director was there and could see who we were. All the others kept quiet because, as they said later, they thought that saying anything might affect their careers, pay, chances of being made redundant and so on.

I might add, of the 3 of us, one went on to become the Director of the research station, one was close to retirement and I moved on a few years later, I had never planned a long term career with this particular outfit.

Every mass movement, from work place to national is dependent on those too scared to object because other people might not approve.

Wyllow3

Sorry:
I don't know the situation in Scotland Namsnanny so asked. But in England I have talked at length to my DiL, grandchildren 6,8, 10, 11 and the teachers don't match what you are saying at all.

Small children are unlikely to realise they they are being indoctrinated- that’s how it works, isn’t it? Ask if they know what ‘authentic self’ means, if they have heard of someone being ‘in the wrong body’ and how many ‘genders’ there are. If they can engage with any of this nonsense you have your answer, whichever country you are in.

Elegran

I see that Lia Thomas has been dropped from the Women’s Sports Hall of Fame, suggesting she should instead pursue recognition in men’s sports.

About time too. His titles are being passed to the female winners. As an aside, I teach two girls called Mia. One pronounced Mee-a and one pronounced My-a.
Lia Thomas in female sports is very appropriate.

I see that Lia Thomas has been dropped from the Women’s Sports Hall of Fame, suggesting she should instead pursue recognition in men’s sports.

Sorry:
I don't know the situation in Scotland Namsnanny so asked. But in England I have talked at length to my DiL, grandchildren 6,8, 10, 11 and the teachers don't match what you are saying at all.

There is so much evidence I'm exasperated that you need to ask.

Oh really!

"Teachers have become implicit in the dissemination of these unfounded ideas.

We have to find out why?
Yes they need to work and are hamstrung by the pressure to conform to these ideas. But for so many to just give in to it, so easily, why?
They (should) know better than most."

What evidence have you that all teachers are teaching using all these materials uncritically - telling them off and "they should know better?"

Willow3
Remember we are not discussing Sex ed here.
I think you are conflating the two.

First the Scottish Charter is about Gender ideology being introduced to nursery school aged children. You are talking about secondary aged children (who also shouldn't be encouraged to believe they can be born on the wrong body either).

Then as Dd pointed out sex is not trans.

Perhaps you arnt aware how much the educational system is enthralled with this ideology?
Gender pronouns 4-6 y
Blue crayon red crayon 4-9y
Above are just 2 titles of books I can remember, that are in schools and libraries.

Why?

I think you have to remember, unelected people have set in place theories and ideas that have no basis in reality.
That badly effect children.

Teachers have become implicit in the dissemination of these unfounded ideas.

We have to find out why?
Yes they need to work and are hamstrung by the pressure to conform to these ideas. But for so many to just give in to it, so easily, why?
They (should) know better than most.

But this movement was not challenged by most people in all kinds of positions.

It's a top down movement. Planned costed, financially supported.

Imv it is not a response to a need from an under privileged group.

Discussion about sexuality is fine in an age appropriate way, as is talking about sex. Neither of those things will encourage children to believe the impossible.

*People have sex, for pleasure and for reproduction.

*People have sexualities, which may be gay, straight, bi or asexual. A discussion of those things, therefore, is preparing children for later life, and teaching them that wherever they fit into it all is fine.

*Unless they have a DSD, however, people are born into one of two sexes, and cannot change from one to the other. There is no such thing as the wrong body, and telling children that there is, and that they can choose which sex they want to be is cruel, as they can’t.

I don’t mean to be picky, but lumping sex, sexuality and gender is, IMO, one of the things that have allowed TRAs to push their agenda. The constant cries of ’this is like the homophobia of the 80s’, or the suggestion that keeping men out of women’s spaces is akin to keeping people of colour out of ‘white spaces’ are very offensive.

Sorry Doodle, I meant - all any issues around sex and gender relationships that come up at that age.

Trans is not a sexuality.