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O. J. Simpson has died.

(59 Posts)
Urmstongran Thu 11-Apr-24 15:44:37

Aged 76y.

tickingbird Thu 11-Apr-24 21:13:17

You are absolutely right Norah.

It wasn’t down to professionals BlueBelle, the jury, mostly black, found him not guilty. It’s common knowledge he got away with murder and the victims’ parents took out a civil case against him and he was found guilty and ordered to pay millions but I don’t believe they received much, if any, of it.

Iam64 Thu 11-Apr-24 20:18:23

It is. I e only visited once, and then Boston, Mass, NYC and Washington. Liberal by U S standards. I was surprised that the legacies of slavery were so evident - naive of me

Norah Thu 11-Apr-24 20:01:00

Iam64

Norah , radio 4 earlier described the criminal trial jury as largely black and the civil jury as largely white

Interesting.

Deeply divided country. My brother never told me that bit (or I never asked).

Iam64 Thu 11-Apr-24 19:54:19

Norah , radio 4 earlier described the criminal trial jury as largely black and the civil jury as largely white

Norah Thu 11-Apr-24 19:31:44

BlueBelle

I m not sympathetic if you mean me tickingbird all I m saying is there appeared not to be enough proof to convict him I don’t know if he was good or bad did the deed or didn’t do it and it seems nor did the professionals know or else he would have been behind bars for life
He may well have been a thoroughly nasty piece of goods I didn’t know him though I can’t judge we can only go by the courts decisions surely

It appeared the jury believed Mr. Simpson had been framed by racist police. If I recall correctly, the jury was mostly black - they reached the verdict.

Callistemon21 Thu 11-Apr-24 19:13:56

BlueBelle

I m not sympathetic if you mean me tickingbird all I m saying is there appeared not to be enough proof to convict him I don’t know if he was good or bad did the deed or didn’t do it and it seems nor did the professionals know or else he would have been behind bars for life
He may well have been a thoroughly nasty piece of goods I didn’t know him though I can’t judge we can only go by the courts decisions surely

Yes, there was sufficient proof but the prosecution was not robust and there could have been a reluctance to find someone who was such a famous sporting icon guilty.

CanadianGran Thu 11-Apr-24 19:07:08

I saw that on the news this morning, and my thoughts were that he has met his maker and the ultimate judge. Not that I am very religious , but I do believe in some form of afterlife or karma.

BlueBelle Thu 11-Apr-24 17:40:58

I m not sympathetic if you mean me tickingbird all I m saying is there appeared not to be enough proof to convict him I don’t know if he was good or bad did the deed or didn’t do it and it seems nor did the professionals know or else he would have been behind bars for life
He may well have been a thoroughly nasty piece of goods I didn’t know him though I can’t judge we can only go by the courts decisions surely

Norah Thu 11-Apr-24 17:38:10

tickingbird

Unbelievable that some on here seem to be sympathetic to this man. He may have got off but his wife’s throat was cut and her friend stabbed to death. He carried on to commit armed robbery and that’s why he served time in prison.

Like Galaxy I’m thinking of Nicole Brown and Ron Goodman and their families today.

All seemed/seems quite unjust. Perhaps a broken legal system?

Nightsky2 Thu 11-Apr-24 17:34:10

One of the worst injustices ever seen.

tickingbird Thu 11-Apr-24 17:30:43

Unbelievable that some on here seem to be sympathetic to this man. He may have got off but his wife’s throat was cut and her friend stabbed to death. He carried on to commit armed robbery and that’s why he served time in prison.

Like Galaxy I’m thinking of Nicole Brown and Ron Goodman and their families today.

Smileless2012 Thu 11-Apr-24 17:25:10

He was convicted for armed robbery and the kidnapping of two sport memorabilia dealers at gun point.

Callistemon21 Thu 11-Apr-24 17:23:52

BlueBelle

Ahh I didn’t realise he was that old I suppose the memory of him is stuck in that ‘year of intrigue’
If it was a wrongful sentence that was awful I remember the gloves he was supposed to have worn in the murder wouldn’t even go on his hands
He was always much loved before that terrible day

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Too sad, too bad.

MissAdventure Thu 11-Apr-24 17:07:25

Oh well.

Norah Thu 11-Apr-24 17:05:00

welbeck

Norah

I believe the criminal trial ended in acquittal, civil trial convicted.

My brother litigating in America, interesting cases.

the civil court found in favour of the plaintiffs, and awarded damages accordingly.
convictions only take place in criminal courts.

Sorry I used words improperly.

The result was as you say (awarded damages) though the total awarded damages have never been paid. The families of Brown and Goldman civil trial resulted in a reward of over $40 million in damages.

welbeck Thu 11-Apr-24 17:00:15

time served was for an unrelated matter.
some kind of poetic justice, maybe.

BlueBelle Thu 11-Apr-24 16:58:41

Yes there was a car chase I remember too
I think it was iffy and I guess only he really knew what happened that day I think he served about ten years instead of life
One of these things that we ll never know I suppose

Galaxy Thu 11-Apr-24 16:55:36

I am thinking of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman today.

welbeck Thu 11-Apr-24 16:54:29

Norah

I believe the criminal trial ended in acquittal, civil trial convicted.

My brother litigating in America, interesting cases.

the civil court found in favour of the plaintiffs, and awarded damages accordingly.
convictions only take place in criminal courts.

Iam64 Thu 11-Apr-24 16:46:55

Although Mr Simpson was found not guilty in the criminal trial, the Goldman and Brown families in 1997 won a 33.5 million dollar civil judgement against him from a jury that ruled he was liable for the murders. (Washington post)

Nicole’s journals recorded 60 different incidents of alleged bearings

Norah Thu 11-Apr-24 16:46:34

I believe the criminal trial ended in acquittal, civil trial convicted.

My brother litigating in America, interesting cases.

DiamondLily Thu 11-Apr-24 16:42:53

Oh dear, how sad, never mind.

Georgesgran Thu 11-Apr-24 16:40:04

Robert Kardashian was his lawyer.

Grandmabatty Thu 11-Apr-24 16:35:47

Wasn't there a police car chase live on TV? I seem to remember that.

Smileless2012 Thu 11-Apr-24 16:34:36

Yes that's right welbeck it was his wife's family I think that took it to court and won.