Another Tired Kicking For The Sick And Disabled By Rishi

maddyone

I think we need proportional representation. It would bring much needed moderation to government and every possible stance from far left to far right could be represented if that’s what the electorate wanted. In actuality I think it would lead to a proper balance between the main political parties and result in better governance.

Yes, long overdue!

Callistemon21

Freya5

nanna8

Oh - get rid of the man. He’s awful. Not even voted into his position, either.

He was elected, as much as you dislike the fact, as per Party rules, as was Starmer, by Mps and online party members vote.
It is the party that is elected in a GE, not the leader of.

But we haven't had an election with him as party leader.

I think he's marginally better than the Australian PM nanna8!

Most definitely, though six of one, half a dozen of the other. We haven’t had a decent leader here for years now. Liberal or Labour.

maddyone

I think we need proportional representation. It would bring much needed moderation to government and every possible stance from far left to far right could be represented if that’s what the electorate wanted. In actuality I think it would lead to a proper balance between the main political parties and result in better governance.

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I think we need proportional representation. It would bring much needed moderation to government and every possible stance from far left to far right could be represented if that’s what the electorate wanted. In actuality I think it would lead to a proper balance between the main political parties and result in better governance.

Grandmabatty

Proportional representation has to be an improvement surely. I see Menzies has resigned from the Conservative Party

it would be a start

V3ra

^"None of the Above" would be a positive statement of opinion that might make MPs stop and think.^

Now that must become an option surely. Then what would that do, would it mean all those who were up for election have to drop out. Then start again. Be rather costly.

No I don't think that would be necessary.
I'd like to see the number of votes for "None of the Above" being read out alongside the number of votes for each named candidate in a seat.
I think it would give a truer picture of how the electorate in that constituency feels.

I don't think including it with the actually "spoilt," ie scribbled on or otherwise defaced, papers gives a true representation of the electorate's intentions.

I'd like to see the number of votes for "None of the Above" being read out alongside the number of votes for each named candidate in a seat.
I think it would give a truer picture of how the electorate in that constituency feels.

... hear, hear.

They need to know.

"None of the Above" would be a positive statement of opinion that might make MPs stop and think.

Now that must become an option surely. Then what would that do, would it mean all those who were up for election have to drop out. Then start again. Be rather costly.

No I don't think that would be necessary.
I'd like to see the number of votes for "None of the Above" being read out alongside the number of votes for each named candidate in a seat.
I think it would give a truer picture of how the electorate in that constituency feels.

I don't think including it with the actually "spoilt," ie scribbled on or otherwise defaced, papers gives a true representation of the electorate's intentions.

Social media has ruined politics .

The Social Dilemma is a brilliant documentary which is worth watching

My feeling is that party-politics will simply ensure that what is broken stays broken and that the divisions within society will deepen. We are so polarised now.

For me, Brexit was the catalyst promoting the divisions that have now become so wide that I cannot see things changing, ever.

Boris Johnson should never have 'cleansed' the government, it was the most self-serving, destructive thing he ever did. All governments need a coalition of minds, not just those that say "yes minister".

The same goes for Starmer.

I'm so depressed with it all.

None of the above will most probably be my choice when the election eventually arrives. I have voted for all three main parties in my adult life, Conservative, Labour and Liberal Democrat, but I can’t in all honesty support any of them in the next election. I’ve never voted Green, or UKIP, or any of the smaller parties, only ever put my cross against one of the main parties. I’ve never spoilt my ballot paper before either.

Proportional representation has to be an improvement surely. I see Menzies has resigned from the Conservative Party

I think none of the above will be for me at the next election. I was a Tory supporter most of my adult life but in recent years I've lost faith in them.

Freya5

V3ra

Cossy

Just a little plea to all the lovely ladies on here, echoing others sentiments, women literally died (well one at least did), went to prison and protested to get us the vote, please use it, even it it’s just to spoil your ballot paper!

I really think it's time we had an option on our ballot paper where we could actively choose "None of the Above."

If we don't vote at all the cry goes up that we're apathetic.
If we're reduced to spoiling our ballot paper it just seems childish.

"None of the Above" would be a positive statement of opinion that might make MPs stop and think.

Now that must become an option surely. Then what would that do, would it mean all those who were up for election have to drop out. Then start again. Be rather costly.

"None of the above" is an option already and always has been. That's what "spoiling the ballot paper" means. Scribbling on it, crossing out all the names, or whatever you do doesn't mean you having a childish strop. It means you're saying "none of the above".

You could always write "none of the above" at the bottom as well.

I can’t say it often enough - it isn’t going to happen - Sunak knows it and his party knows it.

“Downing Street had hoped that Friday’s prime ministerial speech on the weighty issue of welfare reform might finally begin to restore the party’s reputation for competent governance.
It was a potent sign of Sunak’s (failed) struggles in keeping his party on track that, soon after his speech had concluded, some of his MPs found themselves discussing whether or not one of their colleagues had deliberately intoxicated a friend’s dog. “How can somebody possibly get a dog pissed?” wondered one. “Bizarre.”
A senior minister was more despairing of the “utter madness” on display. “Do we really reflect society as a whole? I hope not for the sake of humanity.”

Observer

These twin issues - sleaze and corruption together with an inhumane utter disregard for the struggles of so many families in the U.K. will ensure that the Tories lose the election and lose it badly, if they fail to recognise and change course on these issues.

Well, you will not be in any position to criticize the next party in government after the net election will you?

This is about women over 50 working part time and claiming sickness benefits though MOnica.

AGAA4, I have thought this myself. Assuming that we suspend judgement and buy into the rhetoric that all most unemployed are idle scroungers who cannot be bothered to get out of bed in the morning, how are these attractive employees?
Which lucky firm will benefit from their (lack of ) dedication? Which fortunate employee will share a shift with them?
Many unemployed are keen to work, and are proactively searching. The others ... I wouldn't be enthusiastic about offering them work if I were in a position to do so.

Many women over 50 not working fulltime are doing so because they are providing childcare for grandchildren. Who will look after the children if heir grandparents are working?

As we all know chilcare is very expensive in the UK and many parents cannot afford it.

Closing Remploy was another of those short term save a bit of money, wreck a lot of lives moves.
It’s more difficult for people with say learning difficulties to work now, so little unskilled work. Every factory or big office had eg floor sweepers as long term employees

No, it doesn’t seem so long ago. I was surprised when I looked it up. We had a Remploy factory in the little market town where I last lived. Now a housing estate. I have often wondered what happened to the people who worked there. It gave them dignity and purpose.

Germanshepherdsmum

Closure of the Remploy factories started when Labour was in power with the last one closing in 2013.
www.theguardian.com/society/2013/oct/30/remploy-factories-close-disabled-workers

Thanks GSM. I'd forgotten how very old I am. It doesn't seem that long ago. Labour have done their share of damage.

Freya5

nanna8

Oh - get rid of the man. He’s awful. Not even voted into his position, either.

He was elected, as much as you dislike the fact, as per Party rules, as was Starmer, by Mps and online party members vote.
It is the party that is elected in a GE, not the leader of.

But we haven't had an election with him as party leader.

I think he's marginally better than the Australian PM nanna8!

nanna8

Oh - get rid of the man. He’s awful. Not even voted into his position, either.

He was elected, as much as you dislike the fact, as per Party rules, as was Starmer, by Mps and online party members vote.
It is the party that is elected in a GE, not the leader of.

I think the ‘young people parked on welfare’ are those who don’t work and maybe have never done so . Obviously not those who are completely unable to work. The women over 50 working part time are probably those not sufficiently well to work full time, but they are in the labour market and productive.

V3ra

Cossy

Just a little plea to all the lovely ladies on here, echoing others sentiments, women literally died (well one at least did), went to prison and protested to get us the vote, please use it, even it it’s just to spoil your ballot paper!

I really think it's time we had an option on our ballot paper where we could actively choose "None of the Above."

If we don't vote at all the cry goes up that we're apathetic.
If we're reduced to spoiling our ballot paper it just seems childish.

"None of the Above" would be a positive statement of opinion that might make MPs stop and think.

Now that must become an option surely. Then what would that do, would it mean all those who were up for election have to drop out. Then start again. Be rather costly.