Angela Rayner lashes out and calls Sunak “pint sized loser”.

TinSoldier Even the staunchly Conservative press, The Telegraph makes repeated reference to Sunak's diminutive size and political stature. Why is nobody complaining about that? how do you know they aren't? Are we to assume that unless people bring in every example of anything and everything then they're not disagreeing with them? You said AR saying pint-sized wasn't an insult, when she clearly did intend it as an insult, especially coupled with 'loser'.
Remarks about Sunak’s stature is almost a daily trope and probably water off a duck's back in the cut and thrust of politics. Surely this just endorses that reference to his height is meant to diminish and insult. I have no love for the man, but prefer to criticise his actions, not something he has no control over. He may find the tropes hurtful, I doubt he'd express that publicly.

Well, they aren't complaining here.

So I ask the staunch Conservative supporters and Telegraph readers here ... Why is it acceptable for the newspaper they buy or subscribe to to print this kind of matter referring to Planet of the Imps etc but not acceptable for Rayner to say what she did?

Do these Telegraph readers write to the editor to complain whenever the paper makes repeated references to Sunak's stature?

There are double standards going on here and I am merely challenging them.

As neither a staunch Conservative supporter nor a Telegraph reader I can't enlighten you. I can however point to your own double standards (don't we all occasionally dabble in those? Only saints can claim never to have veered down that path) that you still won't admit that AR knew quite well she was insulting Sunak by using his lack of height as a pejorative. You can claim the dictionary definition says one thing, but you know she was using it for cheap laughs.

From Politico
Totally unscientific scores on the doors: The “pint-sized loser” line stole a show that should’ve been trickier for Rayner.
Oliver Dowden 5/10 … Angela Rayner 8/10 … Regard for the feelings of short people 0/10.

Rayner is making her jibes in Parliament.

Staunch Tory supporters and Daily Telegraph readers do not necessarily have an affinity with Sunak.

eazybee

Rayner is making her jibes in Parliament.

Staunch Tory supporters and Daily Telegraph readers do not necessarily have an affinity with Sunak.

That's what I meant yesterday about a time, and a place.
There was a not dissimilar occasion in France when someone in the crowd used the diminutive form of Macron's name. He went berserk, wagging his finger, and giving them a real rollicking. It wasn't the name calling per se he was worried about, but the lack of respect at an official occasion (something to do with WW2?). He said something like, "You can show yourself to be an idiot in your own time but not in public."
Out of interest, what was Sunak's reaction to AR? Anyone see?

I only saw a clip of the incident, but Sunak wasn't in the House, he was in Germany. That's why Dowden took PMQs. According to TinSoldier he's used to it so it's probably like water off a duck's back. Allegedly.

I doubt there will be any comment from Sunak.

Thank you Rosie51.

undines

Here I go again! -
'Pint sized' is personal and demeaning, criticising a man on what is generally a sensitive point. For a man to be small is considered as much of a physical disadvantage as for a woman to be fat - perhaps even more so, because 'fat' can be changed but height can't (at least not without extreme surgery). Comments about 'mugwumps' and 'slime' are insulting and rude, but not personal in the same way. Sunak could do something about his cruel and uncaring policies, arguably he could do more to help the world with his vast wealth, but the only thing he can do to be taller is stand on tip-toe!

But only a month ago Jeremy Hunt made derogatory comments about Keir Starmer’s weight. It’s a level playing field between the parties when it comes to personal insults, but for people’s own reasons they have chosen to lambast Angela Rayner and ‘forgotten’ what he said. Maybe it’s down to his posh voice, not so wounding somehow.

I'm not comfortable with the jibe although its not new to Sunak, and "pint size" has a multiplicity of uses

but...because that kind of body jibe is so often used against women.

Raynors style in general - often refreshing, I dont have problems mostly.

It’s the “loser” part of the sentence that’s particularly nasty.
“Loser” is what football hooligans chant whilst doing a rude gesture from their foreheads. I suppose we should be thankful she didn’t do that too. 🤪

I’ve always admired Alan Johnson. Comparing his childhood with the one Angela Rayner experienced is like comparing chalk and cheese. Both knew poverty, both had feckless absent fathers.
Johnson’s mother was a stable, hard working woman. She managed against the odds to bring up her son and daughter decently. She died at 42, when Alan was 13 and Linda 16. She was supported by a social worker in resisting attempts to take them into care. Instead they got a council flat . Alan Johnson was in touch with the sw when he write an autobiography. He credited his success to the support and love of his mother and sister and thanked the sw for sticking their neck out for them

I won’t detail Rayner’s different experiences but they lacked the loving care of a stable mother or an older sister

So, she didn't actually "lash out".
She simply joined in with the usual stuff that goes on.

MissAdventure

So, she didn't actually "lash out".
She simply joined in with the usual stuff that goes on.

Definitely.

Now this is definitely a class act😄😄😄

A nasty, cheap shot. Who was talking about "arbiters of class"?

Guess who coined the term pint -sized ?

None other than that Johnson adoring Nadine Dorries😄.

Whitewave - I read that Nadine Dorris first use that term about Sunak
The faux outrage and snobbery about Angela could be part of a hyacinth bouquet sketch

Iam64

Whitewave - I read that Nadine Dorris first use that term about Sunak
The faux outrage and snobbery about Angela could be part of a hyacinth bouquet sketch

Of course.

It is all part of the political scene. All nonsense of course but something some people take seriously.

Those in the HoC would have recognised immediately that Rayner was quoting Dorries, but clearly not something immediately obvious to many.

Whitewavemark2

Iam64

Whitewave - I read that Nadine Dorris first use that term about Sunak
The faux outrage and snobbery about Angela could be part of a hyacinth bouquet sketch

Of course.

It is all part of the political scene. All nonsense of course but something some people take seriously.

Those in the HoC would have recognised immediately that Rayner was quoting Dorries, but clearly not something immediately obvious to many.

Correct ladies. It was Nadine Dorries who called Sunak a pint sized loser some time ago.

There were smirks on the other side of the House as Tory MPs recognised the tongue in cheek reference (and they don't like Sunak any more than AR does).

So perhaps now the prejudicial pearl clutchers amongst us will know exactly where to direct their ire.

Whitewavemark2

Iam64

Whitewave - I read that Nadine Dorris first use that term about Sunak
The faux outrage and snobbery about Angela could be part of a hyacinth bouquet sketch

Of course.

It is all part of the political scene. All nonsense of course but something some people take seriously.

Those in the HoC would have recognised immediately that Rayner was quoting Dorries, but clearly not something immediately obvious to many.

I had no idea!

Oh yes it makes a difference - she was drawing on it. Except that unless its reported, people won't realise its origin.

Whitewavemark2

Guess who coined the term pint -sized ?

None other than that Johnson adoring Nadine Dorries😄.

Rubbish!

What ND said was Sunak was the biggest VOTE loser.

It is a quote from Nadine Dorries' book, 'The Plot'.
Good that it’s getting wider attention.