Angela Rayner lashes out and calls Sunak “pint sized loser”.

She had also singled out radio host James O’Brien, who she called a ‘public school posh boy f**k wit’ after he had blocked Dorries on Twitter.

In addition, Dorries has also shared several tweets that promoted Islamophobia including one from the now-suspended account of far-right activist Stephen Yaxley-Lennon aka Tommy Robinson.

I don't approve of Dorries levelling personal insults about someone's body either. So I'll criticise her for the comment as equally as I criticise Rayner.
The whole childish insulting and baying at each other achieves nothing. I wish they would be grownups and do what's best for the country. If they listened and considered more, were prepared to compromise, and put the country before party we could actually make some progress.

So why then didn't AR acknowledge that her comment was a kidnapped quote from Dorries? The thing is, that most uninformed people like me will now always associate it with AR.
At least Boris used to explain his waffly classical examples with the expression, "In the words of ......", or his crazy ramblings with the starter, "As ..... once said".
I like to know where quotes are lifted from, but as I haven't read the Dorries book, nor do I intend to, in a few weeks time, if you ask me, I will attribute the use of the insult to AR.

Why would you attribute it to AR now you know she was quoting Dorries? That doesn’t make sense to me.

Just for the record, Rishi Sunak is 5ft 6ins which is the same height as Macron and Zelensky! So any insults about his height also apples to them. In fact Churchill and Putin are only one inch taller at 5ft 7ins.

Imagine the uproar if a Tory had called her a Ginger Minger during PMQs…

What a rude little woman she sounds like. You are welcome to her.

nanna8

What a rude little woman she sounds like. You are welcome to her.

Who? Nadine Dorries?

She of whom a seat in the House of Lords evaded her?

Even Johnson with his standards bumping along the ground couldn’t stomach giving her entry - so you can tell the calibre of the woman.

MayBee70

Why would you attribute it to AR now you know she was quoting Dorries? That doesn’t make sense to me.

I dont always make sense to myself sometimes, Maybee70!
But in answer to the question, possibly, because the Dorries figure was certainly nowhere near as prominent flamboyant as her charismatic leader at the time, whereas AR is almost more out there than KS himself. I'm not saying that's a bad thing for the Labour Party, because she is very much what you see is what you get. For me, however, -without getting attacked for being snobbish, snooty or whatever- her behaviour is rather alien.
I know now she was quoting Dorries, but it would have been helpful to have known from the start, because first impressions die hard. Maybe she needs to work a bit on clarity when repeating someone else's words so we are aware of the context.

nanna8

What a rude little woman she sounds like. You are welcome to her.

Not sure if it was deliberate on a thread about height nanna8, but your comment was sizeist!

joseanne

Given the context, and the people to whom she was speaking, she didn’t need to.

Every Tory would know that it was a quote from Dorries.

It is a commons past time - to throw individuals words back at them.

True, but what about the far far wider audience? The onlookers, observers, listeners of the general public. Isn't that why PMQT is televised?

It is televised to inform, but those in parliament are debating with the opposition, and deciding law and policy. They are not addressing the wider public, and when you think about it neither could/should they.

However, be in no doubt that some MPs undoubtedly play to the wider audience when they get up to speak. That is often the only contribution they ever make.

Casdon

nanna8

What a rude little woman she sounds like. You are welcome to her.

Not sure if it was deliberate on a thread about height nanna8, but your comment was sizeist!

It was meant to be ironical but hey Ho.

The point about Rayner is that she was brought up in the school of hard knocks, and had succeeded despite all the sneers, ridicule and nastiness that she has encountered along the way. I for one would have fallen by the way side I’m sure.

She could of course affected an accent just as Rees-Mogg has done - don’t be fooled by his drawl - nobody naturally speaks like that - but Rayner has clearly decided to remain true to her difficult roots and by doing so is a role model for many other young women whose lives are disastrous from birth- just as hers was.

So whilst our very unpleasant British trait of snobbishness is in full force at times like this, it does us no harm to wonder how we would have survived let alone succeed given such a poor start.

The woman is to be admired not knocked for her success.

Well said WWM!

The obsession with accents doesn't bother me, and I've never mentioned it here before. But ...
We all assume different accents at times, especially we are in a public facing role. (I was an Eastend cockney schoolgirl, but became Headmistress of a private school. Its easy to adapt to those you want to reach, in both directions). And if you'd rather stick to your roots, that's also fine.
For me and others on here, I think it was primarily the insult, not the accent. I would say exactly the same about Prince Harry's insulting personal remarks, even though he might have a very posh voice. Just don't do it!

Joseann

True, but what about the far far wider audience? The onlookers, observers, listeners of the general public. Isn't that why PMQT is televised?

I think those days are long gone.
It's a free-for-all playground these days, with certainly not just Rayner, bit all of them jeering, and shouting, and showing off their ability to be more sarcastic than the next person.

It was to be expected. She knew what she was doing, what if a man had said she was built like a cart horse. It’s about time the House was bought to order. If a man said something about a woman’s appearance would that be ok?

Allsorts

It was to be expected. She knew what she was doing, what if a man had said she was built like a cart horse. It’s about time the House was bought to order. If a man said something about a woman’s appearance would that be ok?

Who are you talking about? - Nadine Dorries?

We have gone from "she said it"
To "it was the way she said it"
To "she should have said that someone else said it before she said it".

Let's just say she's a gobby northerner, and we don't like her, and be done with it.

MissAdventure

We have gone from "she said it"
To "it was the way she said it"
To "she should have said that someone else said it before she said it".

Let's just say she's a gobby northerner, and we don't like her, and be done with it.

Why? That's insulting.
There's no point two of us making fools of ourselves!

Only two of us?
Hmmm....