Humza Yusaf's resignation speech

I wasn’t impressed, which rather surprised me. Yes, he’s articulate but I found him too focussed on himself and over emotional. I don’t have a problem with expressed emotion usually but I became increasingly ill at ease as he talked on about himself, his wife, his ethnic origins, the PM being a Hindu etc etc.
I’m genuinely pleased that people in politics are beginning to reflect the communities they serve but his self awareness fell short imo. Plus - no acknowledgement that I heard that his tenure hasn’t been a stunning success

The joke doing the rounds is “oh poor Humza looks in need of a holiday - he should ask could he borrow the campervan”.
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My feelings exactly, Iam.

Hitler was a great orator. Hardly the measure of a decent man.

Urmstongran

His first marriage was to an SNP lady (don’t know details) who had converted to the Muslim faith on marriage. He had an affair - citing that his wife ‘wasn’t Muslim enough’.

It shows how much notice I've taken of him as I hadn't heard the scandal, so much of the news has been concentrated on the Murrell-Sturgeons.
So he's just a regular type of scandalous politician, then, and a smooth talker?

OldFrill

I think claiming he's "a decent man" demonstrates little understanding of him.

I will admit to that!

Being a decent person doesn’t mean you can do the job well.
My postman is a decent sort, I know him and his family but as an efficient postman, he sucks! Mail is only half stuffed through letterboxes meaning anyone can pull it out and walk off with it.
I think we are all so fed up with politics that if a person seems half decent we think, yay, without thinking if they’re actually any good at their job.
After now listening to his farewell speech I think it was a pity party for himself.

Maybe I should point out that Scotland has had just 3 FM's since the early 2000's
TWO since 2014 Nicola Sturgeon and Humza Yousef
Can I further point out that the so called UK has had in just 8 YEARS 6 YES THAT is six PM's
6 Chancellors of the Exchequer
8 foreign secretaries
and 8 home secretaries

I dont recall the brouhaha that going on now.All because Humza sacked before they jumped ship...the greens
Not even when the Lib Dems and the Tories parted company
WHY are we treated differently from England.Seems they can lie,cheat ,steal from the public purse ,commit crimes AND STILL be acceptable to most on here .Now of course D ross the MSP with 3 jobs and several instances of undeclared money to his name ,has dropped the vote of no confidence .IT was all a ploy ...and you know what most of us see and have seen whats been going on...WM will do anything to get SNP out of power ..I doubt that they'll succeed!!

So it’s all the fault of the wicked English

Iam64

So it’s all the fault of the wicked English

Oh, I thought all had gone quiet on the Northern Front.

We must not mention Scotland unless we actually live north of the border.
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We must not mention Scotland unless we actually live north of the border.
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All the fault of the English and that den of iniquity Westminster. Nothing to do with Sturgeon and Yousaf’s barmy politics.

Iam 9.04 👍
Casdon 8.23 👍
Urmstongran 8.31 👍
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Tickingbird 9.28 👍.

We live in the sound bite era.
It might be a shame that some politicians cant/wont deliver a technically perfect speech, from the perspective of the listener, but I think it is harder now, for people to listen to the cadence, syntax etc of a speech if they don't engage with the content.

I understand you didnt care two hoots about what HY was actually conveying in his r speech.
But I see a good orator as one who carefully hits an emotive word or phrase with a carefully crafted tone.
Which imv conveys the substance of the points to be made throughout or in conclusion of the speech.

HY white speech was a good example of what I mean.
His tone and body language emphasized the word white perfectly.

Anyway, I shall watch his RS with new eyes after your comments.

HY white speech was a good example of what I mean.
His tone and body language emphasized the word white perfectly

That speech, however well delivered in your opinion, was absurd.

Scotland's population was approx 96% WHITE at the time.

What did he expect?

It was verging on racist.

What if a WHITE person made a similar speech from their perspective? Can't see that going down too well.

I wasnt discussing the content Louella12.
Nor was I intending to stir up feelings.
Just airing my conclusions about HY speech, and giving examples why.

I think the SNP won’t have such power from now on.

You cannot separate the content of speech from its delivery,otherwise it may just as well be gobbledygook.

Presents as a demagogue to me.

Here’s a good article, demonstrating that you absolutely can separate the content of a speech from its delivery. The finest words from a dull speaker don’t have power. Note what this article says about The Beast of Bolsover - arguably the last great orator we have had in the UK. It’s a gift, and not many people possess it.
www.phoenixmag.co.uk/article/from-dennis-skinners-cutting-jibes-to-churchillian-oratory-what-makes-a-great-political-speech/

paddyann This thread started as a one complimenting the leader of the SNP for a beautifully crafted speech well delivered.

You remind me of an old uncle of mine who always assumed every compliment to him, was an attempt to belittle him and run him down.

I have no idea what HY said in the speech, I wasn't listening to the sentences just the words and delivery.

Urmstongran

Yikes! What a speech. Well modulated, erudite. And yet …
Another racist speech by Humza. ‘People like me’ and if I was to say “people like you” I would be accused of racism. Keen on his family now … don’t suppose he ever had an affair?
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Oh for heaven's sake, why must you always make snarky comments? I thought his speech was from the heart, was genuine, was dignified and I am no fan of the SNP.

HousePlantQueen

Urmstongran

Yikes! What a speech. Well modulated, erudite. And yet …
Another racist speech by Humza. ‘People like me’ and if I was to say “people like you” I would be accused of racism. Keen on his family now … don’t suppose he ever had an affair?
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Oh for heaven's sake, why must you always make snarky comments? I thought his speech was from the heart, was genuine, was dignified and I am no fan of the SNP.

Urmstongran is right though.

The delivery was beautiful, but the content questionable.

Me, snarky? 😁 just facts to share.

From the bit I understand about the SNP (which is very little), it seems that their time (albeit temporarily) is past.

When the push for independence was at its height, the SNPs time was right, but it appears that as a political party for independence they are the go to, but as a political party running a country - they are rubbish.

paddyann54

Maybe I should point out that Scotland has had just 3 FM's since the early 2000's,

Yet again here I am correcting your errors, don't have time for all your rant but this is the correction for your first statement quoted above, nothing you say has any credibility
There have been 4 FMs since the early 2000s, in fact 5 since 2000.

Humza Yousaf
2023 to present (he's still in office)

Nicola Sturgeon
2014 to 2023

Alex Salmond
2007 to 2014

Jack McConnell
2001 to 2007

DH: "Well, at least he lasted longer than Truss."

OldFrill

paddyann54

Maybe I should point out that Scotland has had just 3 FM's since the early 2000's,

Yet again here I am correcting your errors, don't have time for all your rant but this is the correction for your first statement quoted above, nothing you say has any credibility
There have been 4 FMs since the early 2000s, in fact 5 since 2000.

Humza Yousaf
2023 to present (he's still in office)

Nicola Sturgeon
2014 to 2023

Alex Salmond
2007 to 2014

Jack McConnell
2001 to 2007

Depends on the definition of early 2000s.

There was also Henry McLeish
And of course Donald Dewar.