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Nelson Shardey

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Callistemon21 Thu 16-May-24 18:32:17

This is rather long but I hope you will read it.

Nelson Shardey, age 74, is a Ghanaian man who came to the UK nearly 50 years ago to study accountancy. When there was a coup in Ghana his family were unable to continue supporting him so he worked so he could continue his studies.
He worked for well-known firms such as Mother's Pride, Mr Kipling Cakes and Bendincks.
No-one ever queried his right to stay and work here. He paid his taxes.
Later on he ran a newsagent's, married and had a family. His sons went to university here and both have good jobs.

Mr Shardey bought a house after obtaining a mortgage.
He has performed jury service, and in 2007 was given a police award for bravery after tackling a robber who was attacking a delivery man with a baseball bat.

He never applied for a British passport as he never went abroad until 2019 when he wanted to go to Ghana after his mother died.

That's when his troubles started because the Home Office said he had no right to be in the UK.
Officials told him to apply for the 10-year route to settlement.
By that time, even if granted, he will be 84.

Over the 10 years it costs about £7,000, with a further £10,500 over the same period to access the NHS.

"I cannot afford to pay any part of the money they are asking," said Mr Shardey, who is recovering from prostate cancer."

Mr Shardey made a mistake in believing he did not need to apply for settlement here and no-one, not the HMRC, the CJA, the banks ever advised him otherwise.

This man has been an asset to our country, a man to admire.

Surely the Home Office should use some common sense and grant him British citizenship as a matter of urgency?
We need rules but there must be some way round this ridiculousness.

keepingquiet Fri 17-May-24 09:12:39

It shouldn't but it does. I think the question should be was he deliberately avoiding renewing his visa or not? This was be very costly to try to prove and therefore for reasons of expediency he should be granted citizenship and allowed to stay. There have probably over the years, been many examples of this, including my own late father-in-law who stowed away on a boat to get here and worked hard all his life.
Those stories didn't make the news back then and shouldn't now.

maddyone Fri 17-May-24 10:45:12

We haven’t conferred automatic citizenship on Commonwealth citizens for many years. This man overstayed his visa and events have now caught up with him. If he was younger I’d think he should be deported, but since he’s now retirement age and has worked and presumably paid tax and NI, then he should be granted permanent residency or citizenship. It needed take long. He was doing a degree, was it a post graduate degree? Therefore he is not a stupid man. He knew he’d overstayed his visa and now events have caught up with him.

keepingquiet Fri 17-May-24 12:25:12

He has done far more than just pay tax or NI- we all do this but that doesn't make us good citizens.

BlueBelle Fri 17-May-24 13:31:10

It’s a total an utter disgrace if they haven’t bothered to follow it up in what 50 + years
He an exemplary citizen he has more than earned his right paid his taxes more than many home grown do, has never been a burden on the country been good enough to do jury service ( don’t they check on people they invite for jury service ) and even helped the police tackle a criminal

Leave him alone Home Office give him whatever papers he needs now not in 10 expensive years time
This is not his fault and it’s abysmal treatment of an upstanding citizen

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 17-May-24 13:38:11

It’s entirely his own fault BlueBelle. He knew the terms of his visa but chose to ignore them.

Callistemon21 Fri 17-May-24 15:49:26

Germanshepherdsmum

It’s entirely his own fault BlueBelle. He knew the terms of his visa but chose to ignore them.

His Visa allowed him to work, so he did. He applied some time ago but was given the wrong information by someone in the Home Office.

Yes, he should have applied for British citizenship much earlier, perhaps an oversight on his part or he just didn't realise. However, I am sure the majority of us would welcome a man like Mr Shardey as a fellow citizen of the UK and his application should be dealt and citizenship granted without further delay.

Callistemon21 Fri 17-May-24 15:51:59

don’t they check on people they invite for jury service

Obviously not!

His oversight does not excuse the sheer incompetence of all the authorities he must have had dealings with over the last 50 years!

Callistemon21 Fri 17-May-24 16:00:00

If he was younger I’d think he should be deported

That's rather harsh.
Apart from that oversight, he's led an exemplary life, married a British woman and his children are British.

Added to which, there was coup after coup in Ghana, people being executed in the 1970s and 80s.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 17-May-24 16:02:36

Names are just selected at random from the electoral register for jury service. There appears to have been no reason for his status to have been checked until he applied for a passport. He pleads ignorance but I don’t buy that. People are failing to return home when their visas expire and many seem to disappear. I don’t want ‘he has worked and paid taxes’ to set a precedent. Too many come here on student visas, either never attend their courses or drop out as he did, and don’t leave. It’s said he was not a burden on the state but his two wives produced four children … no NHS care, no family allowance, no education?

Cossy Fri 17-May-24 16:05:19

I think the whole thing is completely ridiculous frankly. We seem to not be able to easily deport criminals who don’t have British passports (I don’t mean failed asylum seekers, those who have committed violent and serious crimes), yet we cannot grant this man a British passport? Or give him indefinite leave to remain without charging him a fortune!

HousePlantQueen Fri 17-May-24 16:07:07

Crikey GSM, you are in hanging judge mode. Nice bit of victim blaming too. Thankfully your legal career was confined to conveyancing and property, and not criminal, or heaven forfend; immigration or human rights.

Cossy Fri 17-May-24 16:07:27

BlueBelle

It’s a total an utter disgrace if they haven’t bothered to follow it up in what 50 + years
He an exemplary citizen he has more than earned his right paid his taxes more than many home grown do, has never been a burden on the country been good enough to do jury service ( don’t they check on people they invite for jury service ) and even helped the police tackle a criminal

Leave him alone Home Office give him whatever papers he needs now not in 10 expensive years time
This is not his fault and it’s abysmal treatment of an upstanding citizen

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

Callistemon21 Fri 17-May-24 16:08:33

He didn't disappear or hide at least. He obviously thought he had nothing to hide. Perhaps life just got in the way and he never applied for citizenship.
Is there a time limit on a student/working Visa?

He owned a newsagents. Can't really get more visible than that.

As for the four children - he paid his taxes same as the rest of us.

Callistemon21 Fri 17-May-24 16:10:39

I think this jury is in the majority - Grant Mr Shardey UK citizenship NOW!

AGAA4 Fri 17-May-24 16:13:04

If this man knew he was here illegally surely the last thing he would do is apply for a passport? He should have known that his status would be checked

Cossy Fri 17-May-24 16:13:26

It could well be that if he married to a British Citizen he thought it was automatic?

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 17-May-24 16:17:54

HousePlantQueen

Crikey GSM, you are in hanging judge mode. Nice bit of victim blaming too. Thankfully your legal career was confined to conveyancing and property, and not criminal, or heaven forfend; immigration or human rights.

Not conveyancing. Property development, planning, construction and infrastructure. It’s pretty obvious I would never have done human rights or immigration work I’m sure. Failing to leave the UK when your visa expires is a criminal offence and has been since 1971. I have never fallen for sob stories, especially from criminals.

Callistemon21 Fri 17-May-24 16:20:52

I'm a soft touch.

I'd go and protest at the Home Office if my knees would stand up to it!

Clawdy Fri 17-May-24 16:22:47

Me too!

Callistemon21 Fri 17-May-24 16:26:30

Actually, I've come across a lot of criminals and reports of criminal activities over the years but Mr Shardey would come way down the list of "criminals" who should be deported.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 17-May-24 16:35:04

I don’t think I have knowingly ever met a criminal! What a sheltered life I’ve led - none of my firms did criminal work. One of my clients was an arms dealer though. He was a charming man. Sorry, I digress.

MissAdventure Fri 17-May-24 16:43:20

My friend was fostered in the UK, having come from Nigeria.
Social services were involved with her upbringing, as must have been the benefits agency, (as her foster parents certainly didn't look after her for the sheer joy of it!) and she duly left school, and carried on with her life.

It wasn't until she was planning her wedding that she found out she had no legal paperwork allowing her to be on the uk.

maddyone Fri 17-May-24 17:26:01

Surely that’s the fault of the Local Authority that took responsibility for her at the point when she was fostered. They should have ensured she had the correct paperwork (whatever the correct paperwork is in such a case.)

LizzieDrip Fri 17-May-24 17:27:27

FFS GSM reading your posts on this thread I’m beginning to wonder if you’re a robot. Where is your compassion!

keepingquiet Fri 17-May-24 17:32:40

LizzieDrip

FFS GSM reading your posts on this thread I’m beginning to wonder if you’re a robot. Where is your compassion!

I was wondering too.