Families who lost relatives in the 07/10 attack by Hamas are being assaulted, tragedy doesn't always bring people together.

Whitewavemark2

foxie48 that is always going to be the case where you have an oppressed population.

Agree.

foxie48

Unfortunately, Palestinians living in Gaza have no choice about where they live as they are effectively imprisoned there. There's an article in the Guardian that suggests that the war in Gaza is driving Palestinians towards supporting Hamas because they feel so threatened by illegal Israeli settlers. It is such a mess and no one is gaining anything, just lots of suffering and there is no end in sight.

You mean Palestinians in the West Bank, who celebrated jubilantly after the October massacre by hamas.
Oh yes! Plenty of hamas supporters there.

The Palestinians who cheered when the bodies of hostages were driven around for them to applaud

That was shocking, unforgivable, and no one here has supported Hamas or its followers in those actions.

It's not an either/or - looking inside Israel and the issues there, which is what has been happening in this discussion, is crucial to understanding whats happening and the politics of ending the conflict.

Clearly, shouting at the wife of a man who has lost 6 hostages, " “a degenerate, a stinking leftist, it’s a good thing your children died.” does tell us there is hate in many places.

As I said earlier, feelings there run high.If we had been invaded and over a thousand people, children and babies murdered horribly, we may be shouting at the relatives of hostages, who knows?

it was not only the october massacre that was the problem its 70 YEARS of Israeli led attacks on people just asking to be left to live their lives...but no Israel tears down houses throws folk off lands they.ve occupied for many generations and then "settles" Israeli's on it.Its an abomination and hearing a member of the Israeli parliament say in public that people were viewing GAZA to pick a spot to settle on wasn't just sickening its criminal.Netanyahu MUST be stopped...from the river to the sea is always quoted as Palestinians driving out Jews ...its really not its jews driving out Palestinians as they have been for decades .Open your eyes and see the truth .Israel has played its victim card too often,getting away with ignoring UN resolutions and getting massive funding from the likes of the USA .We are ALL complicit in these needless deaths

Yes!

I admire Kedem who came out after his losses to demonstrate for a cease fire and a halt to hostilities instead of hating. dont know if I could do that..

(I was replying to Oreo)

No paddyann conflating Israel's regime (s) with "jews" is anti semitic imo. Labelling all after the actions of some.

Jews driving out Palastinians not Israelis driving out Paddyanne ? allegedly

paddyanne54 you have conveniently omitted the part where Palestinians aka Hamas and/or other terrorist organisations in the area have been repeatedly attacking Israel for the same amount of years…

Just a reminder that paddyann lecturing us on how to be 'good' was deleted for antisemitism.

There is a long history of antagonism which includes occupations as well as military attacks, for me not "one side good, one side bad".

So I am genuinely interested in a thread which tries to look inside Israel in terms of future plans and differing political views re land use and governance in Gaza in terms of what is the most likely way towards relative peace.

A man who lost six members of his family in the 07/10 attacks was attacked himself
How very sad. Where is the sympathy for this man?

Galaxy

Just a reminder that paddyann lecturing us on how to be 'good' was deleted for antisemitism.

I no longer read her posts.
They offend me.

I agree maddyone, I neither read or reply to paddyannes tirades, whether about Israel, Westminster, or any other issue. Suffice to say, anti sematism does cross my mind, but I'm not prepared to rise to it or argue about it.

Same here🥱