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Hippie20 Sun 26-May-24 12:00:57

I have just had a Labour canvasser at my door. She did not know Labour's postion on compensation for WASPI women.So no vote from me.

Hippie20 Sun 26-May-24 17:51:22

Not that I am aware of but there is power in the vote.

rafichagran Sun 26-May-24 17:54:33

lizzi I would not vote Labour anyway, but I agree with OP, and anyone canvassing on behalf of a political party should know about something as important as Waspi. I wonder what else they don't know.
If I did any canvassing on behalf of a political party I would make sure I knew the answers to something that is so important to alot of people.

Casdon Sun 26-May-24 18:06:11

The role of a canvasser is not to answer questions on issues that have not been included in their party’s manifesto for the election. Canvassers are not candidates, they haven’t been briefed in every nuance of every issue that electors might raise. In the list of the top items electors might be concerned about, WASPI is not going to be there, because it doesn’t affect the majority of the electorate. Maybe some of you need to go knocking on doors as a canvasser yourselves, that would temper your unrealistic expectations I think.

Hippie20 Sun 26-May-24 18:48:18

Also this is not what I consider a "pet issue" but a major injustice against a generation of women who they thought were an easy target.

Hippie20 Sun 26-May-24 18:52:21

Also the infected blood and Post Office scandal does affect the majority of the public so I fail to see your point. What is relevant is thr injustice not how many people are affected.

Hippie20 Sun 26-May-24 18:56:42

Correction "does not affect"

Casdon Sun 26-May-24 19:12:34

Perhaps pet issue was the wrong way to describe it, minority issue would have been better - it affects 3.8 million out of a UK population of 67.2 million But you specifically said it was the canvasser’s not knowing Labour's position on compensation for WASPI women that you decided on the basis of, Hippie20, I’m saying that was an unrealistic expectation on your part. You don’t know that the canvasser knew nothing about WASPI, or at least, that’s not what you said.
I’m a WASPI too, but I’m not naive enough to think a canvasser would be able to tell me the answer to a question that, because I keep track of what’s happening, I already know has not been decided. What did you expect?

Hippie20 Sun 26-May-24 19:52:41

What an insulting post. Who are you to call me naive? I despair of such unsupportive women.

Casdon Sun 26-May-24 20:05:58

You said yourself that you’ve attended many demonstrations, you obviously keep track of the campaign, and knew what you were doing. I don’t think you’re naive for a minute. I’m not unsupportive of WASPI or other women at all, why would I be when it affects me too, but just be honest about trying to score political points.

Wyllow3 Sun 26-May-24 20:28:48

Locally canvassing advice is,
if you get asked a question you don't know, needing specialist knowledge, you say you will get back to someone

It's not realistic for ordinary canvassers to know enough about every issue that people raise questions on. Often they are on other benefits, PIP, immigration, NHS, care provision, local education, international issues such as Palestine...

Some door-knockers, are retired, but many in full time work.

Callistemon21 Sun 26-May-24 23:17:02

Hippie20

I'm very irrated at having to work at 68 and also having to pay 1
£12000 privately forva hip replacement. I'm also very irrated by losing £50000 in pension just because of my birthdate when women did not have any equality due to pay pensions childcare etc. But I'm most irrated by George Osborne's statement about saving the most money ever by raising women's pension ages.

You won't lose £50,000

With the far higher pension you'll receive you will overtake those on the old state pension scheme at some point.

rafichagran Mon 27-May-24 00:57:52

How long will that take callistomom alot of people under the old state pension got six years extra. Some people will have died before they overtake them.

NotSpaghetti Mon 27-May-24 01:02:15

There are people who make a decision on a single issue - remember tuition fees?

DiamondLily Mon 27-May-24 07:36:45

Callistemon21

Hippie20

I'm very irrated at having to work at 68 and also having to pay 1
£12000 privately forva hip replacement. I'm also very irrated by losing £50000 in pension just because of my birthdate when women did not have any equality due to pay pensions childcare etc. But I'm most irrated by George Osborne's statement about saving the most money ever by raising women's pension ages.

You won't lose £50,000

With the far higher pension you'll receive you will overtake those on the old state pension scheme at some point.

That’s true, but those on the new style pension are often now unable to claim Pension Credit, and all the extras tgat brings, because their pensions are too high.

And, of course, it depends how long they live.

Shinamae Tue 20-Aug-24 23:07:07

I am a Waspi born in 1953

sharon103 Wed 21-Aug-24 01:12:09

I was born 1954 Shinamae We can but hope but i won't hold my breath.
I had the same email and I hope you won't mind, I'll post the link.

www.gbnews.com/money/state-pension-waspi-labour-crunch-talks-compensation?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=16844&pnespid=HeAk6B

madeleine45 Wed 21-Aug-24 07:44:40

As one of the many women who have been cheated and conned by the pension system, I get angry about much of the things that have happened, but my way of dealing with it is to campaign and support any good efforts and ideas . This includes talking to many women and girls about things like checking their pension situation, not letting them be fobbed off with only the option of doing biology when physics gives them a much wider scope when they look for work and many other things. Then having driven for the hospital car service for over 10 years , I talk to many women about keeping up their driving skills. So many women find that when their husband retires they want to do all the driving and it is easy to let it slip into that habit. But this can mean they lose confidence in their own driving abilities and then if there is some reason their husband cannot drive they suddenly have to get back to driving in a tense time. So I urge all women to keep up their skills and keep their independance. Yes I am still mad about the pension situation but my only thing I can actually do in person is to keep as healthy as possible and keep breathing so that at least they have to pay my pension for a longer time. And DONT call it a benefit!! I earned it and it is not a gift or given by anyone else.!!!

Shinamae Wed 21-Aug-24 19:26:07

Thanks for the link, Sharon..
I know I won’t be holding my breath, but maybe since they’ve taken away the winter fuel payment maybe they’ll get on with this,one can only hope 😇

sharon103 Wed 21-Aug-24 21:55:11

Fingers crossed and everything else Shinamae smile

Lilyslass Thu 22-Aug-24 09:00:29

Excellent advice on all fronts.

Lilyslass Thu 22-Aug-24 09:06:05

Sorry, I meant that comment for Madeleine, but I add my support to other comments, especially with the withdrawal of the Winter Fuel payment looming. Labour haven’t listened to anyone about the position so many of us are in, or likely to be in. From a fellow Waspi.

Primrose53 Thu 22-Aug-24 09:08:06

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Primrose53 Thu 22-Aug-24 09:30:22

It’s no good looking back. I could lookbackeven further to Blair who really let everybody in.😉

Labour are in now so they can make decisions as to who they choose to pay and look after. They could do it in the drop of a hat if they wanted to.

Sorry about sticking space bar.

BevSec Thu 22-Aug-24 09:32:33

Primrose, your post is neither silly, misinformed or ignorant. What an unpleasant reply. I fully agree with all you have said.