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Is anyone going to vote tactically?

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Romola Mon 27-May-24 12:42:55

In my area, currently a Conservative-held seat, Labour's vote is very low, while the Lib Dems are within a few percent of the Conservatives.
If we had a fair PR system, I might vote Green, but I'm going to vote Lib Dem because I want to see the end of the Conservatives' run of power. Voting for any other party would just help the Conservative to get elected.
I do feel relaxed about a Labour administration. There seems to be a lot of talent at the top of the party.

Iam64 Mon 27-May-24 16:58:22

Labour as we are red wall marginal
I’d vote tactically to keep a Tory out

Urmstongran Mon 27-May-24 17:03:50

Seems the Lib Dems will begin to believe they are actually popular in and of themselves! Ed Davey will be on tv telling us how the tide is turning in their favour because the voting public are turning to them.

rosie1959 Mon 27-May-24 17:07:59

No most definitely not why would you surely any party that is good enough to win the election shouldn't need tactical voting to do so. They should win on their own merit

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 27-May-24 17:11:16

Will Ed Davey and his supporters magically forget his involvement in the PO saga?

Casdon Mon 27-May-24 17:11:17

Urmstongran

Seems the Lib Dems will begin to believe they are actually popular in and of themselves! Ed Davey will be on tv telling us how the tide is turning in their favour because the voting public are turning to them.

They will Urmstongran, maybe with some justification.

‘Electoral Calculus predicts the Lib Dems will jump from winning 11 seats in 2019 to 44 on 4 July. In the best case scenario, it forecasts Sir Ed winning as many as 58 seats, more than Sir Nick Clegg won in 2010 at the height of his popularity.

Recent by-elections have seen Labour and Lib Dem voters tactically choose the best candidate to oust Tory MPs, a trend likely to play out across the country in the general election as anti-Conservative sentiment runs rife after 14 years in power.’

From the Independent last week - looks like their prediction is spot on based on this thread.

Casdon Mon 27-May-24 17:12:43

Germanshepherdsmum

Will Ed Davey and his supporters magically forget his involvement in the PO saga?

They don’t care about it I suspect, because they know he was no more culpable than others involved at the time. The smear attempts haven’t stuck.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 27-May-24 17:32:00

‘No more culpable than others’ doesn’t really cut it, does it?

Luckygirl3 Mon 27-May-24 17:38:58

I will of course vote tactically, which is what any sane person will do, whatever their political affiliation. Under the first past the post system there is no other choice.

I will vote for whoever will rid us of the integrity-free-zone that is the Tory party.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 27-May-24 17:39:44

I believe I am still sane.

Urmstongran Mon 27-May-24 17:42:47

I think the Lib Dems will benefit from the bounce of ‘just not the Tories’. Fair enough. But that does t make them particularly popular - just convenient.

Casdon Mon 27-May-24 17:46:13

Germanshepherdsmum

‘No more culpable than others’ doesn’t really cut it, does it?

It’s going to though.

DiamondLily Mon 27-May-24 17:46:26

Urmstongran

I think the Lib Dems will benefit from the bounce of ‘just not the Tories’. Fair enough. But that does t make them particularly popular - just convenient.

Absolutely. Theres a lot of ABC voting thoughts going on (anyone but Conservative).

I can’t stand the LDs, but if they are the only party that can oust the Tory candidate, I’ll vote for them.

Labour will never win around here.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 27-May-24 17:47:59

Urmstongran

I think the Lib Dems will benefit from the bounce of ‘just not the Tories’. Fair enough. But that does t make them particularly popular - just convenient.

Exactly

Casdon Mon 27-May-24 17:48:56

Urmstongran

I think the Lib Dems will benefit from the bounce of ‘just not the Tories’. Fair enough. But that does t make them particularly popular - just convenient.

If they do end up with 50ish MPs, which is a possibility though, their clout will increase, their voice will be heard, and they will have their time to convince people (or not), surely?

MadeInYorkshire Mon 27-May-24 17:50:33

Yes, the only possible chance of getting shot of out far right National Conservative; the one that claimed £3200 to heat his second after I'd requested his help as I couldn't afford any heating at all ....

winterwhite Mon 27-May-24 17:50:46

With that criterion and stretching back several years, I don't see how you are left with any party to support, GSM.

DiamondLily Mon 27-May-24 17:53:30

A Tory MP has just been suspended for endorsing a Reform candidate:

‘The Conservative Party says MP Lucy Allan has been suspended for backing a Reform UK candidate.
Ms Allan is standing down in Telford, Shropshire, and publicly gave her support to Reform's Alan Adams rather than Tory Hannah Campbell.
A Conservative Party spokesman said she had been suspended "with immediate effect", and that "a vote for Reform is a vote for Keir Starmer".
Ms Allan said she had resigned from the party to support Mr Adams to be the area's next MP.”

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0kkzv12wndo

MadeInYorkshire Mon 27-May-24 17:54:45

Urmstongran

Seems the Lib Dems will begin to believe they are actually popular in and of themselves! Ed Davey will be on tv telling us how the tide is turning in their favour because the voting public are turning to them.

I believe that 'locally' the Lib Dems are pretty good, and a vote for them is the only slim chance I have of getting rid of my incumbent Tory! Labour haven't a hope in hell here!

Delila Mon 27-May-24 17:56:01

Yes. I’d prefer to vote Labour but it has no chance of success in my area, so I’ll vote Lib Dem. Anything to get the Conservatives out.

MadeInYorkshire Mon 27-May-24 17:59:00

rosie1959

No most definitely not why would you surely any party that is good enough to win the election shouldn't need tactical voting to do so. They should win on their own merit

Quite frankly I don't see that any of them have any merit at all! I would have voted for Starmer a year ago, but now after all his backtracking, I honestly think that they are going to be two cheeks of the same bum!

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 27-May-24 17:59:50

I’m perfectly happy supporting the Conservatives.

MadeinYorkshire, as I recall your financial problems are largely due to a very unwise cash purchase of an unmortgageable property. Don’t blame your problems on the government. The blame lies with you.

Luckygirl3 Mon 27-May-24 18:30:44

Germanshepherdsmum

I believe I am still sane.

Never in doubt. I am sure that if your favoured candidate did not have a hope of winning in your constituency you would vote for whoever might prevent your least favoured party from getting in.
In my constituency the winning candidate had more voting against him than for him.
I will be voting for the party most likely to topple him.

BigBertha1 Mon 27-May-24 22:33:17

We were a very safe Tory seat but now Rutland has been split off and new seat created for Melton and Syston..possibly a little less Tory leaning. I vote Labour whatever. Can't have my father revolving in his grave.

rafichagran Tue 28-May-24 23:38:17

Germanshepherdsmum

Will Ed Davey and his supporters magically forget his involvement in the PO saga?

Agreed, I would not vote for them anyway.

Sparklefizz Wed 29-May-24 06:50:02

I would never vote tactically. It’s not the Eurovision Song Contest