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Rayner cleared.

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Urmstongran Tue 28-May-24 16:01:38

Just that really.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 03-Jun-24 16:13:07

I may be a Conservative voter but I am not, nor ever could be described as, corrupt.

Freya5 Mon 03-Jun-24 16:09:44

Casdon

M0nica

As someone said, they are quite happy to accept that Angela Rayner is clear of any crime or tax evasion. But she still remains a hypocrite for playing a system she affects to abhor, I mean the sums of money were not that large and she has a well paid job.

Would you be willing to trust in government someone who is so morally dishonest in their private life,

Compared to, say, the people who still support the Tories do you mean Monica?

So ordinary people who support the Tories are corrupt. Really. Which Labour MP was sent to prison.
Which Labour MPs, all seven of them, jailed sentences, suspended or sent to jailed.
Starmer was skewered by Marr, when talking about Tory sleaze.
Yes a few years ago but you Labour voters have very selective memories.

MissAdventure Mon 03-Jun-24 16:07:37

I don't care who said it.
She broke no rules, she wasn't in politics at that time, and she bought her council house, just the same as lord knows how many other tenants.

M0nica Mon 03-Jun-24 16:02:12

Siope The fact that the \daily Mail and lord Ashcroft said something does not automatically mean it is wrong. On this occasion I am more than happy to agree with them both.

I feel exactly the same about Boris Johnson.

I would add. I have never in my life voted Conservative, but I hope I never become so narrow minded that I cannot see and accept an idea I agree with just because the person who says it is a party or person with whom I am generally disagree with.

MissAdventure Mon 03-Jun-24 16:00:40

I've just checked, and she was a carer at the time she bought her place.

MissAdventure Mon 03-Jun-24 15:55:47

I don't agree with it either, but I took advantage of the fact that a mortgage was cheaper than the rent.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 03-Jun-24 15:52:49

She has criticised the sale of council houses and the discounts given to tenants. When it comes to her own purchase at a 25% discount she says ‘It was the right thing to do’. Is that not hypocrisy? Ok for me, but not for others. As far as I’m concerned it’s not ok at all, never has been and the practice should be stopped.

Siope Mon 03-Jun-24 15:51:14

M0nica

As someone said, they are quite happy to accept that Angela Rayner is clear of any crime or tax evasion. But she still remains a hypocrite for playing a system she affects to abhor, I mean the sums of money were not that large and she has a well paid job.

Would you be willing to trust in government someone who is so morally dishonest in their private life,

It wasn’t just ‘someone’ who started this. It was tax evading, non-dom Ashcroft, writing in the Daily Mail, a paper owned by a non-UK resident.

He said hypocrisy was always the charge against her, not tax avoidance [which is doubtless news to GMP and HMRC] and that ‘the stain will dog her for years to come’.

I think he’s deluded, although I sure the right-wing media will keep slinging mud in the hope that some sticks.

MissAdventure Mon 03-Jun-24 14:52:55

There is nothing morally wrong with what she has done.

Wyllow3 Mon 03-Jun-24 14:26:06

Iam64

*would you be willing to trust in government someone who I so morally dishonest in their private life*

Oh the irony. Johnson was morally dishonest in every area of his life. Angela Rayner used a legal system to buy her council house. Thanks to Mrs T this is available to council house tenants. Angela isn y wealthy. She worked hard and achieved good luck to her

Yes.

Iam64 Mon 03-Jun-24 14:21:31

would you be willing to trust in government someone who I so morally dishonest in their private life

Oh the irony. Johnson was morally dishonest in every area of his life. Angela Rayner used a legal system to buy her council house. Thanks to Mrs T this is available to council house tenants. Angela isn y wealthy. She worked hard and achieved good luck to her

Casdon Mon 03-Jun-24 12:24:37

M0nica

As someone said, they are quite happy to accept that Angela Rayner is clear of any crime or tax evasion. But she still remains a hypocrite for playing a system she affects to abhor, I mean the sums of money were not that large and she has a well paid job.

Would you be willing to trust in government someone who is so morally dishonest in their private life,

Compared to, say, the people who still support the Tories do you mean Monica?

M0nica Mon 03-Jun-24 12:18:53

As someone said, they are quite happy to accept that Angela Rayner is clear of any crime or tax evasion. But she still remains a hypocrite for playing a system she affects to abhor, I mean the sums of money were not that large and she has a well paid job.

Would you be willing to trust in government someone who is so morally dishonest in their private life,

Mojack26 Sun 02-Jun-24 21:44:29

Verve?

Casdon Thu 30-May-24 21:46:20

ruthiek

What concerns me more is that as a corbinista and proud of it , the fact that she is now championing Diane Abbott shows the danger of Labour, I fear once in Starmer will be sidelined by the ultra left

He won’t. That’s why they are doing their damndest now to disrupt, it’s their last chance. Rayner is far from a darling of the left.

ruthiek Thu 30-May-24 21:41:26

What concerns me more is that as a corbinista and proud of it , the fact that she is now championing Diane Abbott shows the danger of Labour, I fear once in Starmer will be sidelined by the ultra left

Siope Thu 30-May-24 21:38:42

Ohhhh, my heart goes out to Dan Hodges at this traumatic and difficult time.

We really need a sarcasm emoji.

Doodledog Thu 30-May-24 21:37:43

Casdon

Sorry, my sense of humour has taken a nosedive now ove admitted to my son’s true identity.

Can't say I'm surprised at that 😂. I would need counselling in the circs.

Anniebach Thu 30-May-24 21:36:17

Not eat her all her dinner 😲, surely she would have been taken into care 🥲

Casdon Thu 30-May-24 21:35:56

Ove - I’ve

Casdon Thu 30-May-24 21:35:26

Sorry, my sense of humour has taken a nosedive now ove admitted to my son’s true identity.

Doodledog Thu 30-May-24 21:34:07

I know grin. I was being ironic. I think MissA got it.

Casdon Thu 30-May-24 21:33:12

Doodledog

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good gossip, MissA

? She was.
news.sky.com/story/angela-rayner-cleared-by-hmrc-over-claims-around-ex-council-house-sale-13145211

MissAdventure Thu 30-May-24 21:31:57

Well...
I did hear that she once didn't eat all her dinner up, as a toddler.

Doodledog Thu 30-May-24 21:30:56

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good gossip, MissA