Nigel Farage

The fact that Farage is a fan of Trump is enough for me to fear him, leaving aside all other considerations. The USA is in crisis as they can only choose between two old men for president. One is clearly past it and one is, to put it mildly, bonkers. The situation in the UK is also quite bad though nothing like as bad as in the USA. Here we have an incompetent, corrupt Tory government that is well past its sell by date and the only viable alternative seems to be the underwhelming Labour party. Don't get me started on the Lib Dems. I wonder if any of the lunatic fringe parties is standing. Perhaps the 'Free Chocolate Chip Cookies for Pensioners' party.

Good post Dickens. Similarly our ex-Prime Ministers often talk a lot of sense and say it like it is.

nanna8

I have to say he is a good speaker but then so were a lot of people who swayed millions! I think he is a better speaker than either Sunak or Starmer. I also think it is a mistake by the BBC to totally diss him because people notice things like that and are more likely to be interested in what he has to say. He is not a candidate,though, so shouldn’t appear during the electioneering.

I think he is a better speaker than either Sunak or Starmer.

Of course, it's a matter of opinion, but I agree with you - unfortunately!

There's also another matter. Our leading politicians, PMs - vying for power, all have to choose their words carefully because of the way they will be interpreted by the voting public, scrutinised by the opposition and, not least - the media - if they are giving any indication of the way they are going to 'move forward' which of course sometimes leaves you scratching your head wondering quite what it is they are saying. Although Sunak appears to have thrown caution to the wind and gone for the catchy sound-bite; sick-note culture being an example.

But Mr Farage is not similarly constrained - he can "tell it like it is" which is very appealing to those who like their politics to be clear-cut, and which leads them to believe he's saying "what most of us think".

In contrast, Starmer, caught on the hop, puzzling over what it is that constitutes being a woman - carefully side-stepping both sides of the aisle so as not to offend either, sounds rather tongue-tied by comparison.

Diplomacy constricts - and I don't think Farage is at all bothered about being tactful because he doesn't need to be!

For those of us in the middle ground who aren't totally committed to either Left or Right, it's a quandary. Sometimes I listen to Starmer and think, yes - he's right on that. But there have been occasions when Sunak has said something about an 'issue' - and I've thought exactly the same thing. But, I am swayed by the notion that this current Conservative government has made a real hash of things over the last 14 years. If you are at all concerned about the state of our public services, then the evidence is all around you.

So Farage can pick and choose now what he pontificates on, but I do wonder if he's not more concerned with being a political 'celebrity' with regular appearances on TV, rather than being a serious politician.

MaizieD technically acolytes light candles…..

maddyone

I doubt Gransnet is Farage’s targeted audience.

His 'target audience' is anyone who is likely to agree with his racist narratives . There are plenty of people on Gnet who are open to them.

I"m never quite sure what he wants his acolytes to do once he has attracted them, though.

Tiley

I quite like him, I find it quite refreshing to hear his no nonsense speaking. In the future I can see myself voting for the Reform Party but feel it is early days for them so will vote Conservative at next election.

Eh? I ignore him as much as possible, but most of what I hear of what he says is nonsense.

I quite like him, I find it quite refreshing to hear his no nonsense speaking. In the future I can see myself voting for the Reform Party but feel it is early days for them so will vote Conservative at next election.

Yes, they may well be ronib, but Farage isn’t standing for office and isn’t in either of their parties. Posters are becoming very exercised about a person who is an irrelevance to the election. As were two of the other participants on Question Time on Thursday. It’s called presenting a balance of views, something the BBC is obligated to do, and which they managed well on Thursday, although I don’t think they always manage it.

maddyone very true but Starmer and Sunak are definitely canvassing the older generations.

I doubt Gransnet is Farage’s targeted audience.

maddyone

There’s a lot of people filled with intolerance, including on here on Gransnet.

Indeed. And Farage knows exactly how to manipulate them.

Well I certainly agree with you on that growstuff

maddyone

There’s a lot of people filled with intolerance, including on here on Gransnet.

Oh! There certainly are. It's a shame they don't recognise it in themselves.

nanna8

I have to say he is a good speaker but then so were a lot of people who swayed millions! I think he is a better speaker than either Sunak or Starmer. I also think it is a mistake by the BBC to totally diss him because people notice things like that and are more likely to be interested in what he has to say. He is not a candidate,though, so shouldn’t appear during the electioneering.

Goebbels was an excellent speaker. His speeches were textbook examples of how to sway people's opinions.

There’s a lot of people filled with intolerance, including on here on Gransnet.

Freya5

ronib

Farage on Michael Heseltine -‘He’s filled with bile, hatred and intolerance. He’s a proper full-on modern day liberal. And he can’t accept that anybody else has a different view.’

He's absolutely right on Heseltine.

He can't be. What he said is illogical.

Freya5

Whitewavemark2

Farage style is to talk to the lowest common denominator. There is never anything complex about his argument. He is a populist and racist.

This should be known as thr far left GN, anyone who disagrees with the status quo on here is vilified and called racist. An argument used by those, especially you, when you have no valid argument to disprove what Farage says.
Telling the truth is not being racist.
europeanconservative.com/articles/news/almost-half-of-british-muslims-say-they-sympathise-with-hamas/

Wrong! No, they're not.

Telling the truth and being non-racist are not synonymous.

There's more to "telling the truth" than cherry picking a few facts to fit an agenda, which is what Farage does.

ronib

Farage on Michael Heseltine -‘He’s filled with bile, hatred and intolerance. He’s a proper full-on modern day liberal. And he can’t accept that anybody else has a different view.’

He's absolutely right on Heseltine.

ronib

Farage on Michael Heseltine -‘He’s filled with bile, hatred and intolerance. He’s a proper full-on modern day liberal. And he can’t accept that anybody else has a different view.’

Eh? Liberals do accept other people's points of view, so either he's liberal or he's not.

I would imagine that Heseltine finds being called "a proper full-on modern day liberal" hilarious.

Horrible little man

That’s an interesting comment.
Posters became extremely offended and agitated when Macron was described by someone on here as a little man. They didn’t like it at all.
So does it depend on who is being described as a little man as to whether or not those very same posters (some on this thread) get upset about someone being described as little.

LizzieDrip

^I agree with the last sentence, which is why I don't understand why he gets so much attention and people take any notice of what he says^

Agreed. Open Britain have today put out a letter for people to sign & submit, complaining to the BBC about his appearance on last night’s Question Time. He’s not a candidate for any party and, as such, the BBC should not be giving him air time. He completely took over the programme last night. Horrible little man!

This is completely untrue. To begin with, there were only two politicians on Question Time on Thursday evening. Neither Reverend Rose Hudson-Wilkin nor Piers Morgan are politicians nor are they seeking to be elected. Are you saying only politicians or those who are seeking to be elected should appear on Question Time? That’s never been the pattern up to now in all the years since the programme began.
As for Open Britain putting out a letter for people to sign about his appearance on Question Time, well it’s a free country, and they have an agenda. No doubt some highly motivated ‘open up Britain to the world’ people will sign it. That’s up to them, I wouldn’t bother wasting the ink, or my time.

Farage on Michael Heseltine -‘He’s filled with bile, hatred and intolerance. He’s a proper full-on modern day liberal. And he can’t accept that anybody else has a different view.’

Heseltine that well known far left politician called out Farage/Reform/UKIP has this week at the Hay festival stating that there is a racist core to everything these outfits do and say.

So I guess I’m as far left as Michael Heseltine.

Who’d have thought😄😄

Whitewavemark2

Farage style is to talk to the lowest common denominator. There is never anything complex about his argument. He is a populist and racist.

This should be known as thr far left GN, anyone who disagrees with the status quo on here is vilified and called racist. An argument used by those, especially you, when you have no valid argument to disprove what Farage says.
Telling the truth is not being racist.
europeanconservative.com/articles/news/almost-half-of-british-muslims-say-they-sympathise-with-hamas/

Farage style is to talk to the lowest common denominator. There is never anything complex about his argument. He is a populist and racist.