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Seems Farage has an announcement to make at 4pm today.

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Urmstongran Mon 03-Jun-24 13:41:46

Hmm.
Standing as a Reform MP after all?
Emigrating to America to canvass for Trump?
Joining the Tory party?
None of the above?

I shall tune in out of curiosity.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 04-Jun-24 08:06:38

Did anyone see his interview with a BBC chap?

Farage was incredibly rude!

Still if he gets in, Reform intend to scrap the BBC so that should sort it!!

vegansrock Tue 04-Jun-24 07:50:37

I seem to remember when he was in UKIP that he supported relaxed gun control as in the USA, and bringing back smoking in pubs, not sure why he doesn’t push these areas of policy to the fore.

DiamondLily Tue 04-Jun-24 07:48:21

To be clear, I wouldn’t vote for Reform if they were the only candidates on the ballot - one trick ponies.

But, objectively, I would say that Tice comes across as much more personable, likeable, intelligent and articulate, than Farage ever has.

Yet, he’s been dumped for someone that has failed to win a seat at Westminster on 7/8 occasions.

Strange. 🤷‍♀️

zakouma66 Tue 04-Jun-24 07:34:46

Wyllow3

Perhaps a Reform supporter could give me a link to policy outlines on the central areas being discussed atm? so at least I now what they stand for in some detail. NHS? Social Care? Management of the economy? Pro Truss economics?

The only one I did pick up was that they are climate change deniers, they want to abolish net zero.

Best of Luck with that request. Something about a Contract. It looks as if its a power point done by a teenager.

They are about fear, race, division.

There you go, no rudeness from me either.

Pittcity Tue 04-Jun-24 07:32:04

He seems popular in Clacton according to the BBC news Vox Pop.

There was a 75% turnout there for the Brexit vote with the majority in favour.

The latest government labour data also revealed economic inactivity in Clacton at 46.8% - more than twice the 21.7% UK average

You can see why Farage chose Clacton.

Galaxy Tue 04-Jun-24 07:27:36

Is he both now? A fringe politician of no importance but also a key player in one of the most important votes in this country's recent history.

Allsorts Tue 04-Jun-24 07:24:54

If it wasn’t for Farage we wouldn't have had Brexit, so don’t under estimate him. Do understand those who don’t believe in democratic votes counting wish it hadn’t happened, but it’s the only way.

Katie590 Tue 04-Jun-24 06:46:11

It’s all about Farage not Reform, they probably won’t get any seats in Westminster but will get a lot of media attention and take a lot of votes from Tories. My view is “thank god we don’t have PR”, Farage having power would be a nightmare.

vegansrock Tue 04-Jun-24 03:50:57

Why does the British news media continue to give Farage such an outsized platform? Farage a fringe politician whose disruptive, xenophobic views have done nothing but sow division and fear, played a key role in the disastrous Brexit decision. His policies have damaged the UK's global standing and economy. Yet, he is paraded in the media as though he represents a significant or beneficial force in British politics. It’s high time to stop amplifying his harmful rhetoric and instead focus on voices that genuinely aim to unite and improve our country. Maybe the campaign has been boring, but surely a bit of boring is needed in politics right now after several years of “ excitement”. Farage is an odious creep , who reminds me of a dodgy car salesman with his fake tan and bad teeth. He just couldn’t bear to miss out on more publicity now that the even more orange one has been convicted and can do without his ministrations .

LucyAnna2 Tue 04-Jun-24 00:26:51

Dear god - viewing of that link should be mandatory. Quite shocking.

Wyllow3 Tue 04-Jun-24 00:11:37

Nandalot

NoraBone

Farage Facts - x.com/ByDonkeys/status/1797651718852804923

Why not call the party The BNP and have done. Horrid little man. Richard Tice is standing in my area (Boston & Skegness) and there's a lot of support for him on FB. Not from me! Connections to the KKK, I mean, you couldn't make this up!

Thank you for this link, NoraBone. It just confirms what I thought about him. I wish more people would take a look at the link.

Heck, everyone should read this link! Really shocking! and tries to explain away the anti semitism and fascism later.

Nandalot Mon 03-Jun-24 22:54:00

NoraBone

Farage Facts - x.com/ByDonkeys/status/1797651718852804923

Why not call the party The BNP and have done. Horrid little man. Richard Tice is standing in my area (Boston & Skegness) and there's a lot of support for him on FB. Not from me! Connections to the KKK, I mean, you couldn't make this up!

Thank you for this link, NoraBone. It just confirms what I thought about him. I wish more people would take a look at the link.

growstuff Mon 03-Jun-24 22:33:51

I couldn't care less about Farage's wealth. I care more about the mugs who have provided it (but maybe I don't - they're adults - and they can do what they like with their money).

Galaxy Mon 03-Jun-24 22:29:08

Right so if he does become an MP in the future his wealth wont be important? It's just now whilst he isnt an MP?
I am not a reform supporter and what happens in this election with regard to them is irrelevant, it's what happens after the election that will matter. But I am sure it will be very puzzling to everyone when reform (if you're lucky it will be reform it may in fact be something way worse than reform) become the opposition.

growstuff Mon 03-Jun-24 22:28:15

MayBee70

Isn’t being an ex banker very ‘establishment’? I suppose he’ll be talking about ‘ draining the swamp’ soon. I see he’s still appearing in pubs but has dropped the cigarettes.

Farage isn't an ex-banker. He's an ex metal markets trader, which isn't the same thing at all.

fancythat Mon 03-Jun-24 22:16:35

Their website is about economy, energy, public services and institutions. Those are the headlines that I can see.

fancythat Mon 03-Jun-24 22:13:27

MayBee70

Wyllow3

Somehow we are on page 7

and I am none the wiser about Reform/Farage policies except for immigration being central to Farage

- and I have no idea what magic solution he has for even that.

I know. And who exactly are ‘the establishment’ that they’re against; what is it that ‘the establishment’ does that Reform are going to Reform?

He may mean the EU, IMF, WHO, various financiers??

Or he may just mean Labour and the Tories?!

Wyllow3 Mon 03-Jun-24 22:09:37

Perhaps a Reform supporter could give me a link to policy outlines on the central areas being discussed atm? so at least I now what they stand for in some detail. NHS? Social Care? Management of the economy? Pro Truss economics?

The only one I did pick up was that they are climate change deniers, they want to abolish net zero.

Susiewong65 Mon 03-Jun-24 22:06:59

Farage is an opportunist who loves the limelight.
He brings nothing to the party and unfortunately the press will give him lots of ‘airtime’ as they seem to love these characters.

MayBee70 Mon 03-Jun-24 22:06:52

Isn’t being an ex banker very ‘establishment’? I suppose he’ll be talking about ‘ draining the swamp’ soon. I see he’s still appearing in pubs but has dropped the cigarettes.

growstuff Mon 03-Jun-24 22:02:37

Galaxy

Either the wealth of mps is important or it isnt. If his wealth is important then so is Sunaks and Starmers. None of their personal wealth is of the slightest interest to me.

But Farage isn't an MP. He seems to have acquired wealth from being the human equivalent of a flea.

growstuff Mon 03-Jun-24 22:01:05

MayBee70

Wyllow3

Somehow we are on page 7

and I am none the wiser about Reform/Farage policies except for immigration being central to Farage

- and I have no idea what magic solution he has for even that.

I know. And who exactly are ‘the establishment’ that they’re against; what is it that ‘the establishment’ does that Reform are going to Reform?

Being "anti-establishment" is a well-rehearsed battle cry from both sides of the political spectrum. Sorry to mention this, but the Nazis did exactly the same, which is why they appealed to right and left wing voters.

growstuff Mon 03-Jun-24 21:57:08

MaizieD

growstuff

Casdon

I just looked up Jaywick, which I knew nothing about. I expected it to be a town similar in size to Clacton, but it’s not, it’s less than one tenth as big, only 5000 people live there - so a large village size really.

Exactly! It's an enclave of the constituency, which gives the wider area a bad name, but actually it's a textbook example of "haves" and "have nots". There are more "haves", which is why it's so solidly Conservative.

I think poor Jaywick was originally intended to be another seaside holiday destination, but it didn't really make it. There's nothing there for its inhabitants. I have seen old people from my home town reminisce on social media about what a nice place it was 50+ years ago.

We always went to Walton., it was very easy to get to by train, as were Clacton, Frinton and Brightlingsea.

Jaywick started off as an escape for East Enders. People could buy plots of lands (hence "plotlands") and build themselves structures with minimum planning regs. The fresh sea air must have seemed like bliss to people used to the polluted London air. That's why many of the houses in Jaywick still resemble beach huts with some extra amenities, such as electricity and plumbing. The roads weren't "adopted", so they're poorly maintained and the local authority didn't give any thought to insisting on the public amenities one would expect in any community. Clacton itself, like other seaside towns, has become a dumping ground for the homeless from other authorities.

MayBee70 Mon 03-Jun-24 21:52:17

Wyllow3

Somehow we are on page 7

and I am none the wiser about Reform/Farage policies except for immigration being central to Farage

- and I have no idea what magic solution he has for even that.

I know. And who exactly are ‘the establishment’ that they’re against; what is it that ‘the establishment’ does that Reform are going to Reform?

Galaxy Mon 03-Jun-24 21:51:15

Either the wealth of mps is important or it isnt. If his wealth is important then so is Sunaks and Starmers. None of their personal wealth is of the slightest interest to me.