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Seems Farage has an announcement to make at 4pm today.

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Urmstongran Mon 03-Jun-24 13:41:46

Hmm.
Standing as a Reform MP after all?
Emigrating to America to canvass for Trump?
Joining the Tory party?
None of the above?

I shall tune in out of curiosity.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 03-Jun-24 19:22:05

I suppose Trump didn’t want his services.

Urmstongran Mon 03-Jun-24 19:16:21

Well I think it’s good to see Farage back in the fray. As a red wall voter who feels betrayed by the Conservatives but has no inclination to go back to Labour, or try the Marxist Greens, or Liberal Democrats who tried to subvert the Brexit referendum, Reform UK will get my vote whatever the outcome.

And who’s to say they won’t win any seats? It’s too early to tell. Who knows - maybe some Tory MPs (not the One Nation wets) May yet be in secret talks to join. I’m expecting further impetus with this. Reform know they need to turbo boost the narrative.

Casdon Mon 03-Jun-24 19:14:22

I just had a look at the prediction for Ashfield, Lee Anderson’s seat. According to the poll prediction that is a likely Labour seat, which is interesting - it could be a three horse race.

Casdon Mon 03-Jun-24 19:10:24

Urmstongran

To be honest I’m not so sure ‘it’s good news for Labour’. I think Reform will pinch seats from them too - especially in the Red Wall constituencies. Yes they’re Labour (hence Red Wall tag’ but some (many) voted Brexit and have been let down - and know that Starmer wants ever closer ties with the EU so they may surprise the pollsters yet.

The point is though that even if Reform get votes, as indeed UKIP did, they won’t win seats. If you look at the predicted Labour seat position they will win back the Red Wall. There are very few if any seats where it will be a two horse Labour/Reform contest, so it’s the Tories who will lose out.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 03-Jun-24 19:07:22

Urmstongran

To be honest I’m not so sure ‘it’s good news for Labour’. I think Reform will pinch seats from them too - especially in the Red Wall constituencies. Yes they’re Labour (hence Red Wall tag’ but some (many) voted Brexit and have been let down - and know that Starmer wants ever closer ties with the EU so they may surprise the pollsters yet.

The top 3 priorities

The cost of living

NHS

The economy

Brexit isn’t mentioned at all.

RosiesMaw Mon 03-Jun-24 19:02:58

That has decided me, I will be voting reform. We need change and we need a charismatic leader who will stand up for Great Britain
And where exactly does Nigel Farage come into this?

Urmstongran Mon 03-Jun-24 18:58:53

To be honest I’m not so sure ‘it’s good news for Labour’. I think Reform will pinch seats from them too - especially in the Red Wall constituencies. Yes they’re Labour (hence Red Wall tag’ but some (many) voted Brexit and have been let down - and know that Starmer wants ever closer ties with the EU so they may surprise the pollsters yet.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 03-Jun-24 18:56:38

Every person who is eligible to vote can put their X where they choose.

Derogatory remarks and rudeness says far more about the person/s throwing out the comments than the person/people they are aimed at.

Casdon Mon 03-Jun-24 18:51:28

I doubt Sunak agrees with you Urmstongran. As Germanshepherdsmum said, it’s good news for Labour though, so I may have cocktail on Farage tonight, henceforth named as the Sideshow Knob. 🍹

GrannyGravy13 Mon 03-Jun-24 18:50:55

I am probably in the minority on here, having met him when he used to frequent our friend’s pub.

In real life, he is charismatic, charming and an excellent conversationalist (didn’t talk about politics at all)

Totally get he is a marmite figure…

Urmstongran Mon 03-Jun-24 18:44:07

Well he’s certainly set the cat among the pigeons on here alone!
90% of you don’t like him, won’t vote for him, think he’s a chancer. That’s fine. We can agree to disagree. However I think the election has just got a whole lot more interesting!

petra Mon 03-Jun-24 18:43:56

Whitewavemark2

😀 nowhere - one trick ponies. Immigration, immigration, immigration.

Especially those with skin that isn’t white.

Do you ever look at what’s happening in Europe?
Why are all these countries voting for what you refer to as far right policies
It’s not colour, it’s numbers.

www.politico.eu/article/mapped-europe-far-right-government-power-politics-eu-italy-finalnd-hungary-parties-elections-polling/

Whitewavemark2 Mon 03-Jun-24 18:43:21

Never the less I strongly urge all those thinking of voting Reform to not be deterred -

Vote Reform!!

Whitewavemark2 Mon 03-Jun-24 18:40:31

Regarding Farage’s racism.

I can give you page after page of his racist remarks that have been recorded.

If you would like to see it just put in a request😄

Wyllow3 Mon 03-Jun-24 18:40:16

I can’t understand how anyone can find him charismatic. To me he has all the appeal of a particularly dodgy used car salesman.

Nail on head, Witzend. I've been trying to find a word/words that describe him for me.

Glorianny Mon 03-Jun-24 18:38:48

Reform isn't a political party. It's a ;limited company and Farage is the major shareholder (Is there money in that as well??)

Urmstongran Mon 03-Jun-24 18:37:57

JaneJudge

there are lots of horrible posts on this tbh but it's what people like farage encourage, divide and rule

No horrible posts from me. Please note.

Wyllow3 Mon 03-Jun-24 18:37:31

How bizarre. Farage can announce he is standing as an MP and announce he is the leader of the Reform Party.

Where's the democratic process? Can you just announce you are a leader?

Very weird.

Where is Tice? And what are their policies? (Google hasn't been my friend either on that one Urms - surely you know what they are)

Glorianny Mon 03-Jun-24 18:36:12

Let's face facts if he gets in he won't have to do anything if there is a Labour government. he'll just turn up take his MPs salary and do B.. all just like he did in the EU as an MEP. He's laughing all the way to the bank.

growstuff Mon 03-Jun-24 18:36:06

Nicenanny3

18:20Whitewavemark2

Actually your remarks are racist and I've noticed you do that a lot to try and shut down debate. No one on here has mentioned people's skin colour only you, you should be ashamed of yourself.

How is WW's post racist?

growstuff Mon 03-Jun-24 18:35:16

Dinahmo

Interesting that all the Essex MPs are Tory and yet the south east was one of the smaller recipients of levelling up funds.

Essex doesn't count as south east. It's in East of England. It's a big, densely populated county with pockets of deprivation, but most of it is quite wealthy with low unemployment.

zakouma66 Mon 03-Jun-24 18:30:42

Urmstongran

zakouma66

Urmstongran

Casdon

Urmstongran

Farage is right: we need a rebellion against the self righteous, smug establishment. He said Labour are going to win. Of course they are. But we need an opposition to hold their feet to the fire!

That won’t be Reform though.

All to play for Casdon! Look how well Reform have done on FB - apparently. I don’t use it but it has been reported so. There is a momentum gathering now that wants a good shake up of the Westminster bubble, SPADs, media luvvies.

Vote Reform.

Whats are their policies please?

Where do they stand on education,health, austerity ,climate change and so on please?

Google is your friend.

Google was my first attempt.

It mentions a Contract but no policies. I must be missing something really obvious.

Casdon Mon 03-Jun-24 18:28:49

Some people seem to have a very tenuous grasp of what racism is.

JaneJudge Mon 03-Jun-24 18:27:18

there are lots of horrible posts on this tbh but it's what people like farage encourage, divide and rule

Witzend Mon 03-Jun-24 18:26:41

Cossy

Rockyroad In the “real world” he’s just as unpopular as he is on Gransnet.

My mother was as Tory as they come and she simply couldn’t stand Farage.

I can’t understand how anyone can find him charismatic. To me he has all the appeal of a particularly dodgy used car salesman.