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Last night’s election debate repeat of lies and talking over opposition.

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Lovetopaint037 Sat 08-Jun-24 08:39:34

Penny Mordaunt performed a repeat of Rishi Sunak’s method of delivering information to the audience. That is talk louder than anyone else and repeat a misleading lie. Couldn’t believe it when she repeated the same discredited lie dished out by Sunak. The chair woman, Mishail Hussain stated this had been discredited but it was still repeated. The chair appeared to do nothing to stop Mordaunt interrupting and shouting over Angela Raynor. It continued to happen. This appears to be all that is left for the Tories as their tactic is shout louder, tell lies and then hope the electorate will mistake this for strength. I thought Raynor was remarkably well behaved despite every time she tried to answer she was interrupted. Hussain did very little and was disappointing.

Grantanow Sat 08-Jun-24 22:40:15

The £2,000 is a big Tory lie repudiated by the Treasury's top official and they should be ashamed to keep repeating it but they know a lot of voters don't or can't follow the detail. Straight out of the Buffoon's playbook. Parties? What parties?

DiamondLily Sun 09-Jun-24 08:06:50

It looks as though Starmer is due to announce a “triple lock tax promise”, in their manifesto, that there will be no rises in income tax, National insurance, or VAT, for 5 years:

news.sky.com/story/labour-to-pledge-no-increase-in-big-three-taxes-in-triple-lock-promise-13150082

Farzanah Sun 09-Jun-24 10:24:26

Thanks for responding MaizieD.
I think many will grit their teeth and vote Labour despite misgivings.

Both main parties seem to be offering bribes to the electorate by the minute.
I think my vote will go to the Greens this time, despite the fact that I have been a lifelong Labour voter and that there may be tactical voting by Libs and Labour to try and oust the much disliked long standing Tory MP in my constituency.

I just can’t bring myself to vote for a Labour Party is that is Labour in name only, and I don’t think I’m the only one.
We will see!

paddyann54 Sun 09-Jun-24 16:03:19

keeping quiet As the SNP's core policy is Independence why on earth would Stephen give it up...it was also a part of Labours original manifesto when the Labour Party was begun over 100 years ago.The then deputy of the party began his own Independence part which became the SNP .Read about it if you dont believe me.Robert Bontine Cunningham-Graham was a native of the area where I live and was the first MP with Nationalist beliefs.
Can I just add that many Scots feel disenfranchised by Labour and Tories who dont work FOR us as their strings are pulled by London based leaders .
We'll keep fighting for Independence which isn't "flogging a dead horse" by any means .The alternative is being bled dry by WM ,like India and around 60 other NOW INDEPENDENT countries.Its the biggest celebration world wide Independence from Westminster

Freya5 Sun 09-Jun-24 19:45:50

paddyann54

*keeping quiet* As the SNP's core policy is Independence why on earth would Stephen give it up...it was also a part of Labours original manifesto when the Labour Party was begun over 100 years ago.The then deputy of the party began his own Independence part which became the SNP .Read about it if you dont believe me.Robert Bontine Cunningham-Graham was a native of the area where I live and was the first MP with Nationalist beliefs.
Can I just add that many Scots feel disenfranchised by Labour and Tories who dont work FOR us as their strings are pulled by London based leaders .
We'll keep fighting for Independence which isn't "flogging a dead horse" by any means .The alternative is being bled dry by WM ,like India and around 60 other NOW INDEPENDENT countries.Its the biggest celebration world wide Independence from Westminster

You seem to want to ignore your country's part in Empire. Typical of Scots nats, blame it all on England. Carry on with your bigotry or enlighten yourself.
www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/history/enlightenment_and_empire/

Iam64 Sun 09-Jun-24 20:46:06

paddyann54, I’ve no problem with your desire to be an independent country. My own view is it would be a pity to break up the UK, better together but no doubt you’ll say that’s because I’m English (it isn’t by the way)

I’ve noticed you always attribute the British Empire to the English - the evil oppressors. Scotland had significant involvement in colonising countries. Any brief look at your history confirms this

keepingquiet Mon 10-Jun-24 08:35:20

I'll step back in here. I support Scottish Independence if that is what the people of Scotland want.
However, as the last Labour government handed more devolutionary powers over to Scotland then maybe that is where the power to move further to independence will lie.

Stephen Flynn is a great asset to the SNP but he represents them in Westminster, not in Holyrood, where he has little influence in a minority party. Therefore I was making a point that I wish he was in the Labour party, as he could do more especially when we are in power.

The SNP has controlled Holyrood for some time but now seems to be struggling.

Maybe I should have said all this in my original post but you can't anticipate getting answers on this forum!