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What on earth is it with the Tories!?

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Whitewavemark2 Mon 10-Jun-24 17:51:37

Yesterday we had the bizarre interview with the Tory chairman who answered completely different questions asked by th3 Sky reporter, who in the end gave up and stopped the interview.

Cleverly was just on BBC answering questions getting an easy ride for a few minutes, then he was asked a challenging question about how on earth they were going to pay for their proposed spend and he answered with waffle, then was challenged again and he said

“Sorry have to go I’m late for another appointment”

And he went😄😄😮

sazz1 Sat 15-Jun-24 18:04:51

Can't understand why so many are out of work and we need more immigrants to fill job vacancies. When I've been out of work I've taken agency jobs like cleaning a pub, making cardboard boxes in a factory, casual waitress for banquets, washing up in a cafe etc. As long as it put food on the table and paid my bills and mortgage I didn't care. When I got a job that I was qualified for things improved but I've never claimed state benefits.
People should be made to take any job offered regardless of whether it's their trade or not. That's how it was years ago. You went to the Labour Exchange and were sent on a job where they needed workers.

growstuff Sat 15-Jun-24 18:25:19

sazz1

Can't understand why so many are out of work and we need more immigrants to fill job vacancies. When I've been out of work I've taken agency jobs like cleaning a pub, making cardboard boxes in a factory, casual waitress for banquets, washing up in a cafe etc. As long as it put food on the table and paid my bills and mortgage I didn't care. When I got a job that I was qualified for things improved but I've never claimed state benefits.
People should be made to take any job offered regardless of whether it's their trade or not. That's how it was years ago. You went to the Labour Exchange and were sent on a job where they needed workers.

It depends where you're talking about. In my district, the percentage of people claiming unemployment-related benefits is very low. Most of the claimants aren't long-term unemployed. Small businesses, such as shops and cafes, are forever complaining that they can't get staff. We "import" people from neighbouring districts, where housing is cheaper, but that means people have to have their own transport because public transport is dire. There are many areas where the opposite is true. Housing might be cheap, but unemployment is high and opportunities are few.

Mt61 Sat 15-Jun-24 18:34:31

Siope

The Independent is reporting that Farage has apparently cancelled his BBC Panorama interview with Nick Robinson.

I imagine he has flea bites from the Nazi appeasing dogs he’s whistled up.

Don’t talk rubbish

Wyllow3 Sat 15-Jun-24 18:45:10

Labour has responded on the Veterans issue by asking key questions about failures of the current government to help veterans as they had in fact promised (pretty substantial promises failed:

ukdefencejournal.org.uk/labour-responds-to-conservative-veterans-announcement/

However the Help for Heros website does reveal what :
www.helpforheroes.org.uk/about-us/news/election-promises-and-veterans-where-we-stand/#:~:text=The%20Conservative%20Party%20have%20committed,Veterans'%20Bill%2C%20which%20will%20widenparties have committed to

Wyllow3 Sat 15-Jun-24 18:49:11

To clarify muddled last sentence:

Help for Heroes sent out demands to all parties "what will you do" and shows the response. Ie Conservatives were responding to a call from them in issuing their policy, and so have Labour and Lib Dems.

Note: Help for Heros are asking for additional support from what all parties have offered.

Wyllow3 Sat 15-Jun-24 18:53:23

Some jobs may be suitable for just anyone but for example a shortage of £30.000 care workers can't be filled with anyone unsuitable. The job rates are so low that it wouldn't cover someone moving to anywhere but a cheap area and if there are dependants would rely on benefit top ups.

Labour has pledged to raise Care Workers wages to £15 an hour.

Siope Sat 15-Jun-24 20:09:52

Don’t talk rubbish

Well, I can’t actually prove the flea bites, but…

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-hitler-pulls-out-bbc-interview-b2560440.html

Cossy Sat 15-Jun-24 20:33:55

sazz1

Can't understand why so many are out of work and we need more immigrants to fill job vacancies. When I've been out of work I've taken agency jobs like cleaning a pub, making cardboard boxes in a factory, casual waitress for banquets, washing up in a cafe etc. As long as it put food on the table and paid my bills and mortgage I didn't care. When I got a job that I was qualified for things improved but I've never claimed state benefits.
People should be made to take any job offered regardless of whether it's their trade or not. That's how it was years ago. You went to the Labour Exchange and were sent on a job where they needed workers.

Job centres do try and do this but unfortunately, unlike the old days, we cannot “match” people then call the employer and arrange an interview. Majority of jobs are now online applications

Cossy Sat 15-Jun-24 20:37:04

Sorry that should say “they” not “we”

4allweknow Sat 15-Jun-24 20:53:22

They're a the same. Never seem to pick up on the actual points in a question. All seem to have a stock answer no matter what is actually being asked.

RVK1CR Sun 16-Jun-24 07:01:44

Wyllow3

You can google bits and pieces of Reform policy. Economically they make little sense, he is relying on the migrant issue. On that, it includes the promise that the navy will turn boats back, I'd like to hear Navy comments on this!

The immigrants are supposed to remain in the first safe country that they land in. As France is pushing them back to Italy why can't the Uk push them back to France? The taxpayer cannot afford anymore soongers.

RVK1CR Sun 16-Jun-24 07:02:37

"Spongers" ^

MaizieD Sun 16-Jun-24 07:23:06

RVK1CR

Wyllow3

You can google bits and pieces of Reform policy. Economically they make little sense, he is relying on the migrant issue. On that, it includes the promise that the navy will turn boats back, I'd like to hear Navy comments on this!

The immigrants are supposed to remain in the first safe country that they land in. As France is pushing them back to Italy why can't the Uk push them back to France? The taxpayer cannot afford anymore soongers.

After all this time and having it explained so often out come the same idiocies. ☹️

According to international law asylum seekers are not obliged to stay in the first 'safe country' they reach.

We used to be part of an EU wide agreement on asylum seekers under which we could return them to the safe country they had travelled from to the UK, but since the idiotic decision was made to leave the EU, the UK is no longer party to that agreement and is bound by international law.

Of course, many of the headbangers who voted to leave the EU don't understand the concept of 'international law' or see any reason why the UK should comply with it, but, unfortunately for them the UK is no longer in a position to do exactly what it wants in the world. That died decades ago with the British Empire.

LizzieDrip Sun 16-Jun-24 13:33:04

Hear hear MaizieD👏👏👏

Arto1s Sun 16-Jun-24 14:08:16

Well said MaizieD

Cossy Sun 16-Jun-24 14:14:19

RVK1CR

“Wyllow3
You can google bits and pieces of Reform policy. Economically they make little sense, he is relying on the migrant issue. On that, it includes the promise that the navy will turn boats back, I'd like to hear Navy comments on this!
The immigrants are supposed to remain in the first safe country that they land in. As France is pushing them back to Italy why can't the Uk push them back to France? The taxpayer cannot afford anymore soongers.“

You are misinformed, actually on all counts!

Asylum Seekers, under International law can seek Asylum in AMY country of their own choosing.

Asylum Seekers have no recourse to publics fund or right to work until such time as they have their claims processed. They received a small allowance via the govt from the Foreign Aid.

Over 45% of people claiming benefits between the ages of 18-66 are actually in work, state pension is also counted as a benefit, do you consider Pensioners “spongers” Horrible appalling word to describe unwell and disabled people!!

Cossy Sun 16-Jun-24 14:15:35

Totally agree MazieD thanks

Cossy Sun 16-Jun-24 14:15:58

ANY not AMY!

Wyllow3 Sun 16-Jun-24 14:16:49

Thank you MaizieD

Let's be clear its now the first country they claim asylum in not the first country they arrive in

ronib Mon 17-Jun-24 11:04:10

How does any official know what the first country is that an asylum seeker has approached for asylum? As opposed to just landing there. Is there a world wide computerised process/databank?

Wyllow3 Mon 17-Jun-24 11:25:36

Countries like Germany (just checked) keep records of failed asylum seekers but how much sharing is done or how effective it is I don't know.