Tories - rotten to the end

LBCthis morning Louis Goodall (sp?)

Suggested that Tory Ministers might be involved. Not necessarily on the date of the election, but stuff in the budget and other things.

LizzieDrip

Candidates or Tory staffers; regardless of their job title, they were people on the inside, who clearly had inside knowledge of the upcoming date of the election and sought to make money from that knowledge.

Why? Just why? What were they thinking? The sums wouldn’t be life changing. Are they so immature or privileged or silly that they couldn’t see a problem with their actions? What was going on in their heads?

The answer is simple: they have had a life of being entitled. Why would you not think you have the right?

Whitewavemark2

LBCthis morning Louis Goodall (sp?)

Suggested that Tory Ministers might be involved. Not necessarily on the date of the election, but stuff in the budget and other things.

I really hope that’s not the case. The UK will be a laughing stock the world over if it is, and it will damage all politicians by association.

Exactly Wyllow honesty and integrity are beyond price and rather rare it seems among politicians.

I think I will vote for the person this time and not the party as I think he is a good one. However, he's unlikely to be re-elected as I'm in a marginal constituency.

Casdon

Whitewavemark2

LBCthis morning Louis Goodall (sp?)

Suggested that Tory Ministers might be involved. Not necessarily on the date of the election, but stuff in the budget and other things.

I really hope that’s not the case. The UK will be a laughing stock the world over if it is, and it will damage all politicians by association.

Yes this is much more serious than I first thought.

I think this is why Sunak is staying completely quiet about it.

Oh so sorry to have offended you, MaisieD. I hear a lot from British friends and rellies about the uk. They live in different parts, some south ,some north. I was born there and went to school there and I am going to vote now , though I hadn’t considered that until they offered it to me. However, if you find it offensive I will try not to comment on threads you are on.

I daresay they all came up with the idea at a party and didn't stop to think. It beggars belief that anyone could have thought it OK if they stopped to think.

Mamie

From Partygate to Casinogate. Apart from anything else, it is hard to believe the level of stupidity in thinking they could get away with it....

Unfortunately l think they will get away with it. There have only been a handful of prosecutions taken forward by the Gambling Commission. Sunak has said anyone found guilty of wrongdoing will be booted out of the party. He’s covered his bases by the language of that statement. Interesting that the only one suspended during the investigation as the police officer.

I was born there and went to school there and I am going to vote now , though I hadn’t considered that until they offered it to me

Wow, Nanna8 can you still vote in UK elections even though you haven’t lived here for many years?

I had no idea that was possible? Do you still have British citizenship?

I must ask my best friend who has lived in Canada.

nanna8

Oh so sorry to have offended you, MaisieD. I hear a lot from British friends and rellies about the uk. They live in different parts, some south ,some north. I was born there and went to school there and I am going to vote now , though I hadn’t considered that until they offered it to me. However, if you find it offensive I will try not to comment on threads you are on.

You can post what you want when you want, nanna8
It's up to GNHQ to police the threads, not individual posters.

My family in Australia have their views on British politics and politicians (as well as your own lot!) and I didn't notice posters on here holding back when the Australian referendum took place.

www.electoralcommission.org.uk/media-centre/all-abroad-more-brits-overseas-can-now-register-vote-0

Thanks, Callistemon. I had no intention of voting but after speaking with some of the British rellies I changed my mind. Yes, I can vote because I was born there. Some of my children are voting too and they were born here but they have British born parents(us) so apparently they are also allowed to vote. Bizarre really and I wouldn’t bother except I have been talked into it by cousins. I think they want to overturn to Conservatives and get Nigel in.

Blimey.

TBH at first reaction I think that is entirely wrong.

I think I will vote for the person this time and not the party as I think he is a good one. However, he's unlikely to be re-elected as I'm in a marginal constituency.

Similar scenario here.
I had an interesting conversation with a canvasser and our Conservative party candidate this week.
They're as frustrated with the Westminster behaviour as everyone else.
They recommended that people focus on the local candidates and what they do for us in the constituency.

I don't think they're expecting the party to be re-elected.

In voting for the person you are always voting for the party unless they d independent.

Whitewavemark2

Blimey.

TBH at first reaction I think that is entirely wrong.

I know, but apparently the 15 year rule has been abolished.

I don't think my family are voting.

nanna8

Thanks, Callistemon. I had no intention of voting but after speaking with some of the British rellies I changed my mind. Yes, I can vote because I was born there. Some of my children are voting too and they were born here but they have British born parents(us) so apparently they are also allowed to vote. Bizarre really and I wouldn’t bother except I have been talked into it by cousins. I think they want to overturn to Conservatives and get Nigel in.

Blimey. You really must hate the country of your birth. Please spare a thought for those of us that live here. It reminds me of the people who voted for Brexit, not because they agreed with it but wanted to protest in some way just for the sake of protesting. Methinks anyone who lives abroad but wants Farage leading this country should be made to return here if he ever (heaven forbid) leads the country.

What!! That doesn't sound right. Thousands of expats can vote whilst plenty here are disenfranchised because they have no fixed abode.

My DS and DDiL were helping to organise the football homeless World Cup. They spent ages trying to get passports for young men who had no fixed address.
I was enlisted to help find their birth certificates etc.

They had never voted.

I can't help thinking that nanna8 deciding to vote somehow fits in with the whole Farage debacle. He used to be an MEP, took the money but never turned up and wanted us out of the EU. He's stood several times as an MP never managed to get elected but has always had a great deal of media coverage. He's the leader of a political party that isn't a party but a limited company. If he's elected because non-residents vote for him it's somehow fitting and an example of the complete lunacy he represents.

You really must hate the country of your birth. Please spare a thought for those of us that live here

Agree MayBe👏👏👏

nanna8 please think very, very carefully about your vote. This is our lived experience! Nigel Farage should never be allowed anywhere near the HoC.

Grammaretto

What!! That doesn't sound right. Thousands of expats can vote whilst plenty here are disenfranchised because they have no fixed abode.

It was one of the tory wheezes to enlarge their pool of voters.

The 15 year rule was abolished some time ago. I think they reasoned that older people are bound to vote for them.

I think it's biting them on the bum here!

nanna8

Maybe they should have some sort of IQ test before they can stand as M.P.s You bet your life there wouldn’t be too many passing ! Dumb as dog sh##te the lot of them.

And yet you are going to vote for one. Which constituency are you registered in?

Exactly, Parsley.

The people who are allowed to vote in the GE are:

British citizens
British overseas voters
Resident Irish citizens
Resident qualifying Commonweath citizens

researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-8985/CBP-8985.pdf

The only categories that an Australian emigrant, resident in Australia would be allowed to vote is as a British citizen/British overseas voter.

Key is that you must be registered to vote in a constituency.

The application form for a British overseas voter asks for the address in the UK where the person was last registered to vote (or where they last lived if not registered to vote) and when you were last registered at that address. I can only assume that this then is the constituency an overseas voter is allocated to.

Question 11 asks about citizenship, proved by holding a British passport or having been naturalised.

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/65a50e0e96a5ec001373192b/ITR-O-GB_acc.pdf

The only way I can see that Australian residents who still hold British citizenship can “get Nigel in” is if they were registered to vote in Clacton (or if not registered, lived in Clacton) before they emigrated.

Someone please correct me if that’s wrong.