First time in my life I will have to vote tactically. Anyone else ??

I do not believe that "they are all in it for themselves"

I still think many, maybe most, politicians or aspiring politicians start out as decent people with good intentions of making a difference by trying to change things for (what they consider) the better.

Somewhere along the line some do get corrupted, and that is far more likely to happen in a party which tolerates corruption, which turns a blind eye to misdemeanors and lies, and promotes the selfish pursuit of money, especially if that party has had sole control of the government for nine years.

The right-wing media, when it runs out of excuses for the egregious behaviour of the Conservative Party, falls back on the mantra "they're all the same".

They are NOT all thew same.

I don’t know if it’s possible to vote tactically, as they all tell lie after lie . They are all in it for themselves , they want fame and fortune and to get a knighthood at the end of it , oh and to get on the board of several companies so they get megabucks .

Greciangirl

There is no need to vote tactically.

It’s pretty clear cut to me.

You either vote for another five years of austerity and rubbish,
Or you take another path.

And anyone who thinks Terese Coffey is a good MP needs their heads tested.

Could say the same about David Lammy. Possibly the most ignorant Foreign Secretary we will possibly ever have, calling ordinary people Nazi, or worse because they voted for Brexit. Hard right fascist was another term he used.
A limited knowledge of British politics and history, see
Mastermind.
Him representing the country on the World stage, no thank you very much.

I'm voting Labour tactically to get rid of the terrible Tory MP in our constituancy. I would prefer vote Lib Dem or for a very good independant who is standing. However its a close call here and I just want rid of someone who has never done a thing for her constituants.

Thanks Merion. Good history there but it won’t stop Sunak and his supporters continuing to fib

I am voting tactically but it doesn't make me sad.

Nope. A clear choice for me. Labour.

Juniewoonie

Gosh I really don’t trust any of them, they promise the earth and then when it comes down to it suddenly they forget their promises. I’m tempted by Labour but terrified that they will tax pensions and remove the triple lock.

The Tories were on track to bring more pensioners (and others on low incomes) into the tax net each year by freezing the tax personal allowance from 2021. That was Sunak’s idea.

It was two Labour backbench MPs, Jeff Rooker and Audrey Wise, who pushed for the index-linking of the tax personal allowance. That was introduced in 1977. The Rooker Wise amendment remained in place for 44 years until Sunak stopped it in 2021.

During the intervening years, it was Ed Davey who pushed (unsuccessfully) for the annual rise in the tax personal allowance to be additionally linked to earnings, a kind of triple lock on tax personal allowances.

It was Lib Deb Pension Minister under the Coalition, Steven Webb who was responsible for the introduction of the triple lock on the state pension in 2010. This increases the pension by the higher of 2.5%, the average increase in earnings or the CPI.

In other words, you have Labour and LibDems to thank for giving and trying to give more to pensioners (and others on low incomes) and Sunak for taking it away in tax rises.

There is no need to vote tactically.

It’s pretty clear cut to me.

You either vote for another five years of austerity and rubbish,
Or you take another path.

And anyone who thinks Terese Coffey is a good MP needs their heads tested.

we have a Labour safe seat here, so I use my Green vote to have it on record who I'd actually prefer.

Gosh I really don’t trust any of them, they promise the earth and then when it comes down to it suddenly they forget their promises. I’m tempted by Labour but terrified that they will tax pensions and remove the triple lock.

I have never voted Tory and never will ! I just wanted to point out what my current MP has done by betting on himself plus he lives 100 miles away with the lovely Esther !!!

I'm voting tactically too, just to try to unseat the Tories. Their MPs have been in power here for at least 100 years!

As a Lib Dem supporter, I've no need to vote tactically here. The Lib Dems came close last time to unseating the Conservative. Labour supporters have often "lent" the Lib Dem their votes, i.e. voting tactically, and this time there will even be a few Conservatives doing the same.

SaxonGrace

That’s my attitude exactly, like most here I’ve lived under many governments, I’m appalled by the antics of both major parties, but also remember that the LibDems abandoned the promise to students as soon as they had a sniff of power, I will be choosing the party that I hope offers the best for my grandchildren

I have granddaughters. Can’t vote labour, liberal or green…..they will not safeguard them. Can’t vote Tory. It’s been complete shambles.
I am seriously considering a spoiled ballot for the first time ever. It’s grim out there

Having read the Green manifesto, thank heavens for that.

Yes, I've voted for a party I used to support but has changed so much in recent years because it's the only way of being sure of getting the current incumbents out. I'd far rather vote for a party with greener interests because I think that is the biggest issue towards future survival, but with the current first past the post system, there is very little chance of our voices being heard 😞

i am 60 and it is the first time i have not voted snp, posted my vote the other day.

Hazel193 unfortunately thinking of maybe doing the same thing. A poor state of affairs when neither of the main 2 parties can actually be believed and imo the other runners lack the gravitas or experience. I think the state of the country is going to be partly decided by which party is in opposition.

It's not who I want, it's who I don't want hence I am tactical voting. First time ever.

I understand 'sad'. A culturally Tory voter who realises the current load of Tories are wrong'uns. But doesn't agree with Labour principles.

Yes Annma Proportional Representation is the only way that voters will get MPs that truly represent us.
We're in a staunchly Labour constituency so no point in voting tactically.
To be honest I wouldn't vote for any of the major parties at the moment.

Tactical voting is the only answer as far as I can see…We need a fairer voting system and until PR happens that’s what we will have to do.

That’s my attitude exactly, like most here I’ve lived under many governments, I’m appalled by the antics of both major parties, but also remember that the LibDems abandoned the promise to students as soon as they had a sniff of power, I will be choosing the party that I hope offers the best for my grandchildren

I understand exactly what you mean, but I’m more frustrated than sad. Mine will be a tactical vote, too. We need a change of MP here.

High time for PR.