What is it that attracts racists, Islamaphobes, homophobes and general bigots to Nigel Farage?

Its on U tube, Primrose, they both broadcast it live and still have it up

Nicenanny3

tickingbird

I’ll be voting Reform and I don’t give a monkey’s what anyone thinks.

Way to go tickingbird stand up for what you believe in and make Britain great again.

I’m with you…🤓

Nicenanny3

Caleo

Old people tend to be easily scared by foreigners especially dark skinned foreigners. That is your answer to "Why Farage?"

Mr Farage stirs up fears of foreigners and dark skinned others.

Only in a bigoted person's eyes. Perhaps you should have watched the Birmingham rally before you commented negatively.

Nicenanny3 can I still see the Rally anywhere? I realise it’s over now but would rather like to see it. Thanks

Caleo

Old people tend to be easily scared by foreigners especially dark skinned foreigners. That is your answer to "Why Farage?"

Mr Farage stirs up fears of foreigners and dark skinned others.

How old is old?

I even know some old people who are married to foreigners, what you call dark-skinned ones too.

Fancy that.

I just have watched large chunks on immigration. The way he described migrants made me feel sick so biased. (ie said nearly all all young men coming from actual participating in war and gangs)

However, despite all his rhetoric, Farage has still not told us how we will send the boats back to French beaches.

And until he does, I say that his immigration policy is nothing - but empty rhetoric because he offers nothing else - his economic policies we know just dont add up.

Nothing new in the speech but oven ready memes around patriotic, crisis

Caleo

Old people tend to be easily scared by foreigners especially dark skinned foreigners. That is your answer to "Why Farage?"

Mr Farage stirs up fears of foreigners and dark skinned others.

Only in a bigoted person's eyes. Perhaps you should have watched the Birmingham rally before you commented negatively.

tickingbird

I’ll be voting Reform and I don’t give a monkey’s what anyone thinks.

Way to go tickingbird stand up for what you believe in and make Britain great again.

Yia Yusuf gave an absolutely fantastic speech what a wonderful young man he is, if only he could be our new Prime Minister putting the needs of our people first and making Britain Great again, well perhaps in 5 years time he might be. A revolution is happening Vote Reform UK and be part of it instead of voting for the same old, same old parties.

Doodledog

I assume he meant it was in the same way that Sunak says he is proud to be the first Asian PM. Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t see his comment as racist.

Perhaps given the context he meant it as a way of saying that Farage is encouraging the sort of hatred that would be dangerous for people of colour.

Either way, it’s not remotely the same in my opinion.

I agree. It’s an expression which appears to derive from French philosopher Pascal Bruckner’s 1983 book The Tears of the White Man: Compassion as Contempt.

The title for that draws on Kipling’s poem The White Man’s Burden in which he describes colonisation as a burden necessarily borne by the white man—a result of his intellectual and cultural superiority.

Jovan Owusu Nepal is a PPE graduate of Goldsmith’s with a Masters from Cambridge in History. His master's dissertation was on the history of anti-racist and anti-imperialist movements within the British Labour Movement and charting the history of the Labour Party Black Sections (1980-1989).

Only he can explain what he meant by what he is alleged to have said but I understand the comment was made long before he was selected as LP candidate for Clacton which was before Farage decided to stand. My own interpretation would that he simply wants people of colour to be treated equally, not to be seen as inferior, a social problem or a case for pious compassion.

I think it’s a shame what has happened. Giles Watling has a huge majority in Clacton but it could have been a good seat for a first time LP candidate to contest just for experience. Sadly, Farage has now made the contest a toxic media circus.

Clacton has long been a strong Tory seat and was only won by UKIP temporarily when Douglas Carswell defected from the Tories and took his supporters with him.

In 2016, Carswell said that he had "jumped ship with the express goal of changing the image of UKIP and ensuring that it was an asset rather than a liability in the referendum campaign to decontaminate the brand”. (Wiki). Interesting words - that the UKIP brand (lead by Farage) needed to be decontaminated.

Carswell left UKIP on 25 March 2017 to sit as an independent MP. He did not stand at the 2017 election.

This will be a straight race between Watling, who seems to have a sensible, collaborative approach to the small boats, and Farage who seems to want to start a war with France.

All this about Jovan Owusu Nepal is just noise to distract and disrupt which is what Farage does best. This is one seat I hope the Tories hold.

Wyllow3

Are you aware of the actual origins of that phrase? "white mans tears?"
Its got a long literary and social history in the USA and its origin is quite clear - white people who have a sort of pious compassion for racial minorities but are as in Foxie's definition
" I can't be racist because I have a friend who is black/Muslim/ Jewish etc etc."

I don’t see his comments as racist.
It’s historically accurate. I also accept that as a black person, he is likely to have more experience of racism than I have. Just as I don’t expect men to know more about the lived experience of a woman than someone like me, an adult human female

Old people tend to be easily scared by foreigners especially dark skinned foreigners. That is your answer to "Why Farage?"

Mr Farage stirs up fears of foreigners and dark skinned others.

I’ll be voting Reform and I don’t give a monkey’s what anyone thinks.

National Pulse website is “The National Pulse is a politics, culture, and health news site founded and operated by Editor-in-Chief Raheem J. Kassam.”

Kassam has been a long term supporter of Farage.

(Wiki)

“Raheem J. Kassam (born 1 August 1986)[1] is a British political activist, former editor-in-chief of Breitbart News London,

and former chief adviser to former UK Independence Party (UKIP) leader Nigel Farage.[2]

He has been described as far-right[3][4][5] and right-wing[6] by several media publications.

Kassam formerly ran in the party's November 2016 leadership election before dropping out of the race on 31 October 2016.[7] He is the former global editor-in-chief of Human Events and most recently became the editor-in-chief of The National Pulse.[8]”

GNews is run by The National Pulse which is a USA/UK right wing website which has taken up the Farage cause.

Go here first for the “white tears” article
thenationalpulse.com/2024/06/14/nigel-farages-election-opponent-boasted-about-drinking-white-man-tears/

Then to the main website

thenationalpulse.com/about/

If you look into the site and its content its quite clear where its loyalties lie

For example it has “exclusive content” by Steve Bannon who is famed for his rally cries on behalf of Trump as in “death or victory! Shouted many times.

CNN article

“
Former President Donald Trump said in a recent interview that undocumented immigrants were “poisoning the blood of our country,” using language that is often employed by White supremacists and nativists in comments that have drawn rebuke from one prominent civil rights group.
“Nobody has ever seen anything like we’re witnessing right now. It is a very sad thing for our country,”

Trump told the right-leaning news site The National Pulse in a video interview published last week.

“It’s poisoning the blood of our country. It’s so bad, and people are coming in with disease. People are coming in with every possible thing that you could have.””

I assume he meant it was in the same way that Sunak says he is proud to be the first Asian PM. Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t see his comment as racist.

Perhaps given the context he meant it as a way of saying that Farage is encouraging the sort of hatred that would be dangerous for people of colour.

Either way, it’s not remotely the same in my opinion.

Casdon

It’s reported in the independent.

I found it within 5 minutes.
But I had to look for it. it’s been hidden / overlooked by 99% of news outlets.

petra

I don’t know where your all looking there is a lot of info out there.

gnews.org/m/2673582

I believe that ‘gnews’ is not a recognised news source petra. I’ve newer heard of it, and I can’t find a reference to it online.

Wyllow3

Casdon

foxie48

Kandinsky

It gets worse.
So he said his favourite drink was ‘white mans tears’

And labour haven’t sacked him?

Again, if NF had said his favourite drink was black mans tears he’d he crucified.

This is what’s wrong with this country.
Everyone looks the other way if a left winger says something racist.

Please can you add a link to your source as I can't find anything about this "controversy".

There is nothing online, I believe it’s fake news.

Yes, Casdon, I too have scoured the media with no references found except from Farage.

I haven't seen what Farage has said, but *very read this
www.politicshome.com/news/article/labour-clacton-candidate-says-running-for-every-black-brown-person-uk

I’ve found a report in the independent about it - apparently he tweeted it ( tweet now deleted ). He hasn’t denied it from what I can see.

The original post read

: “Going into 2020 I’m going to continue to be vocal about how to tackle racism and the fact I drink white man tears on a regular basis*

Mr Nepaul replied to the post saying: “My favourite drink

Wyllow3

Nicenanny3

Full house at the Birmingham rally, it's live on YouTube if anyone is interested.

I wont watch it as I dislike these sound bite rallies (from any party)

but I really would like to know the answer to the question

How does Farage propose exactly to turn back the boats and plonk people on French beaches, since its the major part of Reform strategy.

Starmer says he's going to renegotiate the Dublin agreement, I hear. More money to the French then,without results.

petra

I don’t know where your all looking there is a lot of info out there.

gnews.org/m/2673582

That isn’t a source. That’s a TV station Farage works for reporting that Farage said something. There is no link to the purported tweet, which, if it ever existed, would be archived and straightforward for any competent journalist to find.

Casdon

Maybe this is the source. Good grief.
news.sky.com/story/gravely-concerning-claims-of-russian-interference-in-general-election-to-spread-support-for-farages-reform-13161235

It must be true. It was spoken by the deputy PM. 😂

I don’t know where your all looking there is a lot of info out there.

gnews.org/m/2673582

Maybe this is the source. Good grief.
news.sky.com/story/gravely-concerning-claims-of-russian-interference-in-general-election-to-spread-support-for-farages-reform-13161235

Casdon

foxie48

Kandinsky

It gets worse.
So he said his favourite drink was ‘white mans tears’

And labour haven’t sacked him?

Again, if NF had said his favourite drink was black mans tears he’d he crucified.

This is what’s wrong with this country.
Everyone looks the other way if a left winger says something racist.

Please can you add a link to your source as I can't find anything about this "controversy".

There is nothing online, I believe it’s fake news.

Yes, Casdon, I too have scoured the media with no references found except from Farage.