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What is it that attracts racists, Islamaphobes, homophobes and general bigots to Nigel Farage?

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 10:25:05

I’ve pinched this question from James O’Brian. And to me it is obvious, - they are fascists - talking about replacing the police with paramilitaries and bringing back the death penalty as well as shoot f….g immigrants has huge echoes of 1930s Germany.

So why would you vote for him?

Wyllow3 Sun 30-Jun-24 12:34:00

Nicenanny3

Full house at the Birmingham rally, it's live on YouTube if anyone is interested.

I wont watch it as I dislike these sound bite rallies (from any party)

but I really would like to know the answer to the question

How does Farage propose exactly to turn back the boats and plonk people on French beaches, since its the major part of Reform strategy.

Casdon Sun 30-Jun-24 12:33:20

foxie48

Kandinsky

It gets worse.
So he said his favourite drink was ‘white mans tears’

And labour haven’t sacked him?

Again, if NF had said his favourite drink was black mans tears he’d he crucified.

This is what’s wrong with this country.
Everyone looks the other way if a left winger says something racist.

Please can you add a link to your source as I can't find anything about this "controversy".

There is nothing online, I believe it’s fake news.

Wyllow3 Sun 30-Jun-24 12:29:50

Are you aware of the actual origins of that phrase? "white mans tears?"
Its got a long literary and social history in the USA and its origin is quite clear - white people who have a sort of pious compassion for racial minorities but are as in Foxie's definition
" I can't be racist because I have a friend who is black/Muslim/ Jewish etc etc."

foxie48 Sun 30-Jun-24 12:29:01

Kandinsky

It gets worse.
So he said his favourite drink was ‘white mans tears’

And labour haven’t sacked him?

Again, if NF had said his favourite drink was black mans tears he’d he crucified.

This is what’s wrong with this country.
Everyone looks the other way if a left winger says something racist.

Please can you add a link to your source as I can't find anything about this "controversy".

Casdon Sun 30-Jun-24 12:28:09

Kandinsky

It gets worse.
So he said his favourite drink was ‘white mans tears’

And labour haven’t sacked him?

Again, if NF had said his favourite drink was black mans tears he’d he crucified.

This is what’s wrong with this country.
Everyone looks the other way if a left winger says something racist.

What appears to be getting worse is people believing Reform propaganda.
All this information about the guy standing against Farage is unverified by any reputable news source, and until it is, more fool anybody who swallows it.

Shinamae Sun 30-Jun-24 12:20:40

Kandinsky

It gets worse.
So he said his favourite drink was ‘white mans tears’

And labour haven’t sacked him?

Again, if NF had said his favourite drink was black mans tears he’d he crucified.

This is what’s wrong with this country.
Everyone looks the other way if a left winger says something racist.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Kandinsky Sun 30-Jun-24 12:17:47

It gets worse.
So he said his favourite drink was ‘white mans tears’

And labour haven’t sacked him?

Again, if NF had said his favourite drink was black mans tears he’d he crucified.

This is what’s wrong with this country.
Everyone looks the other way if a left winger says something racist.

Wyllow3 Sun 30-Jun-24 12:05:09

foxie48

Nicenanny3

Yia Yusuf with Nigel Farage

This is a good example of using the actions of one Muslim to stereotype a whole group of people with widely different views. Farage, as a white male, doesn't represent my views or that of very many voters in this country including every white male. Yia Yusuf doesn't represent the views of Muslims either, nor does his donation to Reform validate their aims any more than Hester's donation to the Conservative party. Yia Yusef can donate to any party he likes but it doesn't make him "right". It's the equivalent of saying I can't be racist because I have a friend who is black/Muslim/ Jewish etc etc.

Good post.

Nicenanny3 Sun 30-Jun-24 12:03:02

Full house at the Birmingham rally, it's live on YouTube if anyone is interested.

Iam64 Sun 30-Jun-24 12:02:42

Thanks foxie48, I’m losing the will to continue participating. You’ve expressed my feelings so much more calmly and clearly than I could

foxie48 Sun 30-Jun-24 11:58:30

Nicenanny3

Yia Yusuf with Nigel Farage

This is a good example of using the actions of one Muslim to stereotype a whole group of people with widely different views. Farage, as a white male, doesn't represent my views or that of very many voters in this country including every white male. Yia Yusuf doesn't represent the views of Muslims either, nor does his donation to Reform validate their aims any more than Hester's donation to the Conservative party. Yia Yusef can donate to any party he likes but it doesn't make him "right". It's the equivalent of saying I can't be racist because I have a friend who is black/Muslim/ Jewish etc etc.

Nicenanny3 Sun 30-Jun-24 11:51:51

Owusu-Nepaul was heavily criticised online during the campaign after an old tweet of his emerged in which he reacted to a friend talking about “white man tears” with the reply: “My favourite drink”.

“They were comments made before I put myself forward for election. Prior to that I was a private citizen. Of course, I would never use such language as an elective representative,” the candidate told PoliticsHome.

Hypocrite perhaps

Primrose53 Sun 30-Jun-24 11:51:33

MayBee70

As a limited company he’s charging people a £5 entry fee.

So what? If people are willing to pay that then it speaks volumes. What’s five quid these days?

Taylor Swift tickets were nearly £1000 each.

The Royals charge much more than that to visit any of their properties as do the National Trust.

Iam64 Sun 30-Jun-24 11:51:16

What’s the problem with that ?

Nicenanny3 Sun 30-Jun-24 11:47:56

Labour candidate Jovan Owusu-Nepaul has said he is running against Nigel Farage in Clacton “for every Black and brown person in the country” and believes the Reform UK leader’s decision to stand has “changed the nature of the campaign”.

Iam64 Sun 30-Jun-24 11:41:29

Casdon

Nicenanny3

Labour have removed their candidate from Clacton 👍

I’ve looked online, this is not reported on any reputable news site at all. He is still standing according to the Labour website.Either it’s not true or the site you had it from has an exclusive, can you tell us your source please Nicenanny3?

Apologies for accepting the statement he’s been dropped. I’ve now googled and as with Casdon can’t find any reports he’s been dropped, or allegations of racism or homophobia. The theme running through news reports is Labour using this candidate in areas they’re more likely to win

Wyllow3 Sun 30-Jun-24 11:40:34

Its certainly going to produce some difficult feelings in Reform supporters who are anti-muslim going o about being taken over and how women are in danger and how sharia law is about to arrive and have frequently said so......

Nicenanny3 Sun 30-Jun-24 11:31:06

Yia Yusuf with Nigel Farage

Casdon Sun 30-Jun-24 11:29:32

Nicenanny3

Labour have removed their candidate from Clacton 👍

I’ve looked online, this is not reported on any reputable news site at all. He is still standing according to the Labour website.Either it’s not true or the site you had it from has an exclusive, can you tell us your source please Nicenanny3?

Nicenanny3 Sun 30-Jun-24 11:25:58

Nicenanny3

Muslim entrepreneur has donated hundreds of thousands of pounds to Reform UK, claiming the UK has "lost control of our borders”.

The precise amount Zia Yusuf has given to the party has not been disclosed but Reform UK claims it is the biggest donation of their general election campaign so far.

Reform UK leader Nigel Farage has faced criticism from Muslim organisations after he said a growing number of Muslims do not share British values.

When asked by the BBC about critics labelling some in Reform UK racist, Mr Yusuf said the party leadership "feel very strongly that we should protect British values and put British people of all religions and creeds first."

As well as being a donor, the BBC understands the 37-year-old will have a public role for Reform UK during the campaign.

In an interview with The Telegraph, which first reported the story of his donation,, external Mr Yusuf said: "I love Britain and I'm a patriot, a British Muslim patriot, which I believe the vast majority of Muslims in the UK are."

Mr Yusuf, who earned an estimated £31m from selling his luxury concierge app Velocity Black last year, told the BBC he believed "unsustainable" net migration levels were making it harder for legal migrants to integrate and overwhelming the NHS.

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Zia Yusuf the Reform Party's biggest donor and a Muslim is speaking at this event, perhaps some of you should listen to what he has to say.

Freya5 Sun 30-Jun-24 11:20:33

Doodledog

Saying that you are running for every black and brown person in the country is not in the same league as suggesting shooting immigrants as target practice for a paramilitary police, though, is it?

This is where whataboutery leads.

Pardon, of course there are excuses for every Labour candidate. Even a racist such as this.

Iam64 Sun 30-Jun-24 11:16:38

It was widely reported. He’s been dropped. No one is pretending he’s an actor

Callistemon213 Sun 30-Jun-24 11:16:11

It's just as well, though, as his remarks were an embarrassment and divisive.
Where do they find these idiots? Foot in mouth syndrome.

Kandinsky Sun 30-Jun-24 11:14:05

Can you imagine if Nigel Farage said ‘ I’m running for every white person,’ it would be all over the news, endless threads on here about it - but a Labour candidate says something racist and it’s hardly been reported?

Doodledog Sun 30-Jun-24 11:09:54

Saying that you are running for every black and brown person in the country is not in the same league as suggesting shooting immigrants as target practice for a paramilitary police, though, is it?

This is where whataboutery leads.