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What is it that attracts racists, Islamaphobes, homophobes and general bigots to Nigel Farage?

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 10:25:05

I’ve pinched this question from James O’Brian. And to me it is obvious, - they are fascists - talking about replacing the police with paramilitaries and bringing back the death penalty as well as shoot f….g immigrants has huge echoes of 1930s Germany.

So why would you vote for him?

Kandinsky Sat 29-Jun-24 20:39:50

It’s just interesting that younger women are far more critical of labour and their views on women / trans issues than older women who were possibly at the forefront of the feminist movement?

Doodledog Sat 29-Jun-24 20:31:54

It certainly hasn't passed me by, and judging by the various threads on here there are other 'elderly' who are aware enough of feminist issues to be concerned about it 😂😂. Just because we post on here doesn't mean we don't post on MN too, and not all MN posters are 'younger' than we 'elderly'.

As WWM2 says, though - there are too many other pressing issues to let that one get in the way of changing the country for the better. If necessary we can continue to put pressure on KS and the rest of the cabinet when they are in government.

Siope Sat 29-Jun-24 20:29:43

Well, epic fail posting. I meant to quote Kandinsky. My point stands though

Siope Sat 29-Jun-24 20:28:00

Shinamae

HousePlantQueen

Honestly....there are none so blind as they who will not see. Even your beloved GB news have dismissed the claims that Ch4 set Farage up.

I have come to the unhappy conclusion, evidenced by the dismissal of all proof, and by the desperate claim that GN is a hotbed of rabid lefties, that some on here share the same disgusting views as Farage. Shame on you

More insults??…..
You cut me to the quick………..NOT 😂😂😂😂😂

Some younger traditional Labour voters, far from all, or even a majority.. Even on the very atypical Mumsnet, lots of women recognise that there are a multiplicity of issues which affect women, and the trans debate (which has not passes Gransnet by at all) is not the only thing to be considered.

Wyllow3 Sat 29-Jun-24 20:27:43

Always find it interesting that some in GN perceive it as left wing and some perceive it as right wing!

Whitewavemark2 Sat 29-Jun-24 20:24:39

Kandinsky

It’s interesting how younger, traditionally labour voting women, are not at all happy with Labour and KS and actually fear them getting in. It’s all to do with the Trans debate which seems to pass the elderly on here by.
Mumsnet ( which is as left wing as this place ) rip KS apart.

Yes, I am sure everyone is aware of the Trans debate, but as far as I am concerned, that is one issue out of so many more important issues.

NHS, economy, cost of living, housing and Brexit and climate change - trans-gender/women issues of course must be respected and both groups given safe spaces, but my energies go into making everyone’s basic life’s needs met, and the political party best able to achieve that.

Shinamae Sat 29-Jun-24 20:21:45

HousePlantQueen

Honestly....there are none so blind as they who will not see. Even your beloved GB news have dismissed the claims that Ch4 set Farage up.

I have come to the unhappy conclusion, evidenced by the dismissal of all proof, and by the desperate claim that GN is a hotbed of rabid lefties, that some on here share the same disgusting views as Farage. Shame on you

More insults??…..
You cut me to the quick………..NOT 😂😂😂😂😂

Kandinsky Sat 29-Jun-24 20:14:30

It’s interesting how younger, traditionally labour voting women, are not at all happy with Labour and KS and actually fear them getting in. It’s all to do with the Trans debate which seems to pass the elderly on here by.
Mumsnet ( which is as left wing as this place ) rip KS apart.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 29-Jun-24 20:06:15

Just listening to “things can only get better” and found myself grinning like mad!

Whitewavemark2 Sat 29-Jun-24 20:00:42

Yes it’s good to know we are not herd like🐑.

Sky is running an article looking back and the Tory government 😮 bit previous.

But Anthony Seldon - the historian - thinks that amongst a couple of successes they were mostly a failure. They were incapable of putting national interest above Party interest - didn’t we know it!

Doodledog Sat 29-Jun-24 19:54:32

I'm all in favour of debate, and of holding politicians and governments to account.

What I want to stop is the unpleasantness. I suppose Thursday is still early days, and people will be licking their wounds for a while after that, though.

HousePlantQueen Sat 29-Jun-24 19:53:23

Me too, as someone responsible (hopefully) for putting them in government, I shall be holding the LP to account. Unlike some Tory supporters, I do not agree with everything the LP does, but I will sleep better when I know the racists and climate change deniers don't have a voice in the house via Farage.

Iam64 Sat 29-Jun-24 19:51:20

Exactly so whitewave and MayBe Labour Party members don’t always toe the party line. challenge and high expectations needed, attempting to undermine the leader as a matter of principle notb

MayBee70 Sat 29-Jun-24 19:46:04

Whitewavemark2

Iam64

No, I can only speak fir myself but if Labour win and Farage is trounced, I certainly wont be bored

Nor me, because I shall be watching the government like a hawk to be satisfied that they have the country and its people at the centre of their policies.

Absolutely. I might have voted for them but I will hold them to account in much the same way that I have done with the current government in it's multiple incarnations. Which has always been part of Labours problems in that we don't just follow the party line in everything they do.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 29-Jun-24 19:30:41

Iam64

No, I can only speak fir myself but if Labour win and Farage is trounced, I certainly wont be bored

Nor me, because I shall be watching the government like a hawk to be satisfied that they have the country and its people at the centre of their policies.

Wyllow3 Sat 29-Jun-24 19:30:31

Iam64

Exactly Wyllow. He also asked good questions calmly

He was in the audience as he is an immigration solicitor and clearly would have a certain POV.

I hope you are right Kandinsky about Clacton.

I expect both right and left wingers in GN will find matters to get our teeth into....🤔

Kandinsky Sat 29-Jun-24 19:18:33

If Farage wins Clacton

He won’t. He’s never been elected as an MP and he’s tried a few times

Iam64 Sat 29-Jun-24 19:17:11

No, I can only speak fir myself but if Labour win and Farage is trounced, I certainly wont be bored

Kandinsky Sat 29-Jun-24 19:14:21

Roll on next Thursday, when I really hope all this stops

Hear Hear.
Although the left wingers on here will be bored still as they’ll have no Tories/ Nigel Farage to moan about all day long.

MaizieD Sat 29-Jun-24 19:13:24

Doodledog

Roll on next Thursday, when I really hope all this stops.

If Farage wins Clacton (and if there are one or two more Reform MPs) he's going to make himself as awkward as possible in Parliament for at least a few months. I think we'll get more tales of being victimised by the Establishment until he rushes off to the US in November to campaign for Trump.

Iam64 Sat 29-Jun-24 19:10:44

Exactly Wyllow. He also asked good questions calmly

Wyllow3 Sat 29-Jun-24 19:04:35

I've seen the picture above of course as Farage posted it as the one shown, with one other audience member they thought should not have been there, a newsreel cameraman (in his own capacity).

They were just 2 people in the whole audience which (having watched QT and heard questions applause etc) were representative of a wide range of views including ones clapping Farage.

I don't find this "unacceptable" at all.

Why should one person who happened to have Pro-Palestinian POV not be amongst the many?

Doodledog Sat 29-Jun-24 19:03:12

Roll on next Thursday, when I really hope all this stops.

Iam64 Sat 29-Jun-24 19:02:23

HousePlantQueen -I fear you’re spot on

Whitewavemark2 Sat 29-Jun-24 18:42:55

Reform have said that they are making a complaint to the Electoral Commission and police against Channel 4. Attached is the Electoral comment.