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What is it that attracts racists, Islamaphobes, homophobes and general bigots to Nigel Farage?

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 10:25:05

I’ve pinched this question from James O’Brian. And to me it is obvious, - they are fascists - talking about replacing the police with paramilitaries and bringing back the death penalty as well as shoot f….g immigrants has huge echoes of 1930s Germany.

So why would you vote for him?

HousePlantQueen Sat 29-Jun-24 18:42:43

Honestly....there are none so blind as they who will not see. Even your beloved GB news have dismissed the claims that Ch4 set Farage up.

I have come to the unhappy conclusion, evidenced by the dismissal of all proof, and by the desperate claim that GN is a hotbed of rabid lefties, that some on here share the same disgusting views as Farage. Shame on you

Whitewavemark2 Sat 29-Jun-24 18:23:04

The concept of far left is interesting, as it seems to me that both the greens and Libs are certainly left of labour.

I shall be voting Labour, but I can equally be as happy voting for Greens or Libs.

M0nica Sat 29-Jun-24 17:45:40

MayBee70

I think most of us inhabit the centre ground, being just to the right or left of centre. I find it very disturbing to suspect that some forum members seem to be far right.

Yes, but we also have far left members as well, which suggests that we represent a reasonable cross-section of the electorate.

Siope Sat 29-Jun-24 16:33:57

Oh, he's boycotted BBC altogether

Wouldn’t it be luvverly…

MayBee70 Sat 29-Jun-24 16:13:04

I think most of us inhabit the centre ground, being just to the right or left of centre. I find it very disturbing to suspect that some forum members seem to be far right.

Iam64 Sat 29-Jun-24 16:04:40

Merino, thanks

The QT audience is selected to give a fair balance of political opinion. When you apply to be in the audience, you’re asked questions
Farage and his gransnet supporters are so reminiscent of Trump’s base supporters. I’d never seen posters whose comments I often agree with as a gang of lefties. MOnica, GG13, varian and others would, I suspect, rightly denie being ‘lefties’

Nicenanny3 Sat 29-Jun-24 15:47:22

Siope

This is, according to his tweet, because the representative audience on Question Time were biased. I think that he’s not enjoyed facing up to scrutiny from the 85% minimum (judging by the polls) who don’t approve of him.

It’s always so with populists: blame other people.

Well after seeing a clip of this man on YouTube I'd agree with him. I'm sure you'd say black was white. I can see why posters don't want to post on news and politics because of the little gang of lefties who wait for someone to dare to post a different view then pile on but ho sticks and stones and all that, when you're over the target you start taking flax.

MayBee70 Sat 29-Jun-24 15:38:18

Wyllow3

Oh, he's boycotted BBC altogether 😂

" I’m refusing until the BBC apologises for their dishonest Question Time audience."

toys out of pram.

Hasn’t he appeared on Question Time more than anyone else even though he’s never been an MP? Does this mean that we never ever have to see him on it again grin? I take it he won’t be appearing on Ch 4 either…

Wyllow3 Sat 29-Jun-24 15:36:00

It worth remembering that both Farage and Tice are Climate Change deniers. Sadly it not being discussed much atm, but in fact very serious, following Trumps belief that Climate Change is a hoax

LizzieDrip Sat 29-Jun-24 15:29:36

Hear, hear Merion 👏👏👏

Whitewavemark2 Sat 29-Jun-24 15:27:00

merion

👍

Merion Sat 29-Jun-24 15:26:38

Correction. Seditious.

Merion Sat 29-Jun-24 15:22:17

The first step in a fascist movement is the combination under an energetic leader of a number of men who possess more than the average share of leisure, brutality, and stupidity. The next step is to fascinate fools and muzzle the intelligent, by emotional excitement on the one hand and terrorism on the other. (Bertrand Russell).

Whatever went on in Clacton (and Andrew Parker wasn’t the only campaigner being odious) it doesn’t detract from the fact that an increasing number of Reform candidates have been and are having to be dropped. Three more were added to the list via QT yesterday.

Those that I know of:

Benjamin Dade, Jonathan Kay, Mick Greenhough, Ginny Ball, Nick Davies, David Carpin, Roger Hoe and now Leslie Lilley, Edward Oakenfull and Robert Loman.

There’s no conspiracy there. These people have been hoist by the appalling things they are on record saying.

Hope Not Hate published this exposé on Dade:

hopenothate.org.uk/2024/03/21/far-right-fantasies-of-reform-uk-candidate-beau-dade/

He was after banning the BBC and The Guardian (of course) but also the Daily Mail. Sedious and revolutionary apparently.

I believe that Nazi-appeaser, Putin sympathiser and misogynist Ian Gribbin is still standing in Bexhill. This:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjmmrwexv4ko

Among other things, he said "Men pay 80% of tax – women spend 80% of tax revenue. On aggregate as a group you [women] only take from society. If you agree with Gribbin that women are the "sponging gender" and should be "deprived of health care” then vote for Reform.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 29-Jun-24 15:20:59

Two identical explanations 😄😄😄

Whitewavemark2 Sat 29-Jun-24 15:19:41

LizzieDrip

Of course, it’s all distraction away from any scrutiny of Reform’s policies - if they actually have any, that is.

That is exactly it.

There isn’t a reform supporter on GN who has a clue as to what their policies are except

Stop immigration - but Farage was clueless how that would happen - although one of his electioneers rather thought “shooting them” might be the obvious answer.

And no tax to pay if you earn less than £20000, but high earners 40p tax threshold means that the better off would benefit much more than pensioners etc. but Farage didn’t seem to want to discuss this. Neither did he appear to know how the money would be raised.

Apart from those two policies, nothing else was discussed as Farage was too busy grandstanding.

Wyllow3 Sat 29-Jun-24 15:19:33

They do - but the economic ones have been discredited.

Its migration and certain social policies that is are the heart of his attraction to followers.

On migration, his central policy is Zero tolerance, turn back the boats back to French beaches, which cannot bear close questioning as it's not legally or practically possible. I'd like to see him pressed on that in a detailed 1 2 1 interview.

LizzieDrip Sat 29-Jun-24 15:07:39

Of course, it’s all distraction away from any scrutiny of Reform’s policies - if they actually have any, that is.

Wyllow3 Sat 29-Jun-24 14:58:08

Oh, he's boycotted BBC altogether 😂

" I’m refusing until the BBC apologises for their dishonest Question Time audience."

toys out of pram.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 29-Jun-24 14:57:14

So even if you put aside the chap that Reform is claiming is an actor.

They still haven’t explained the foulness from Farage’s campaign organiser and the myriad others who are standing as candidates.

It is all a load of rubbish and they know it is.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 29-Jun-24 14:54:49

I love the way that Tice is now “spreading the word” that there is a people’s protest against the stitch up

My god it is so reminiscent of Trump and the “steal”

westendgirl Sat 29-Jun-24 14:53:42

Nice nanny do you think the participants in last night's Fiona Bruce Question Time were a set up as well ?
Nigel Farage does. Following Trump , who always blames others.

Siope Sat 29-Jun-24 14:52:47

He’s apparently holding a ‘rally’ at the NEC tomorrow. £5 a ticket. He refused to attend open hustings in Clacton last week.

Both scared of scrutiny and a grifter. Big surprise.

foxie48 Sat 29-Jun-24 14:52:28

It makes me smile when people say the BBC is biased and we should view GB News for balance. Do they know who owns and funds GB News? Do they know how many times GB News has been sanctioned for significant breeches of the Ofcom code? Probably not!

Siope Sat 29-Jun-24 14:47:07

This is, according to his tweet, because the representative audience on Question Time were biased. I think that he’s not enjoyed facing up to scrutiny from the 85% minimum (judging by the polls) who don’t approve of him.

It’s always so with populists: blame other people.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 29-Jun-24 14:42:18

I note that Farage is too frit to appear on Kuenssberg tomorrow - claiming that the BBC is biased😄😄