What is it that attracts racists, Islamaphobes, homophobes and general bigots to Nigel Farage?

Indeed

LizzieDrip

So, just getting this straight in my own head:

CH4 says it was not a set up.

Parker says it was not a set up.

The only person saying it was a set up is Nigel Farage

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.'

14:21MayBee70

I think it's the other way round, how much evidence do you need. Have you watched the YouTube video.

I agree Siope.

I particularly noticed it in a recent podcast interview with an ardent Trump supporter. She appeared to go out of her way to refer to him as ‘president’. If she said it once, she said it a hundred times🙈 I think that’s why it stuck in my head!

Nicenanny3

Wyllow3

Read this x report from GB presenter Charlie Peters

"There are unevidenced theories floating around - promoted by some journalists - that the Reform volunteer filmed by Channel 4 making racist comments about Rishi Sunak could have been a set-up because he has worked as an actor.

I've spoken to Andrew Parker this morning, he said these theories are total rubbish.

He claims he was goaded by the undercover reporter and that he was making his horrible comments in a "jokey" atmosphere, but absolutely rejects any suggestion that he was a "paid actor" set-up to make Reform look bad."

x.com/CDP1882/status/1806612644792533424

I really don't know how much more evidence you want that he both is an actor, is genuine as a Reform supporter, and was not hired for the job.

It was a set up. Why would he speak in a different voice why not just be himself then? He specialises in undercover acting work and rough voices and had previously worked fie Channel 4.

How much evidence do you need? You are in denial. And you say that I’m naive

would he speak in a different voice why not just be himself then?

Matching his accent to that of his audience, no doubt.

Despite their Leader's privileged Public School, City finance background, which apparently makes him 'one of them', I can't see potential Reform voters giving much attention to a posh speaking apparent member of the hated Establishment.

So, just getting this straight in my own head:

CH4 says it was not a set up.

Parker says it was not a set up.

The only person saying it was a set up is Nigel Farage

Lizzie, I’m sure Trump relishes more than any other, and I’m sure some (many?) of his supporters use it to demonstrate their belief that the last election was rigged.

Parker worked for Ch4 in 1982. 42 years ago.

Hardly a close association, is it?

I expect hundreds, if not thousands, of actors have worked for Ch4 over the years. That doesn't prevent them from being foul mouthed racist Reform activists.

Wyllow3

Read this x report from GB presenter Charlie Peters

"There are unevidenced theories floating around - promoted by some journalists - that the Reform volunteer filmed by Channel 4 making racist comments about Rishi Sunak could have been a set-up because he has worked as an actor.

I've spoken to Andrew Parker this morning, he said these theories are total rubbish.

He claims he was goaded by the undercover reporter and that he was making his horrible comments in a "jokey" atmosphere, but absolutely rejects any suggestion that he was a "paid actor" set-up to make Reform look bad."

x.com/CDP1882/status/1806612644792533424

I really don't know how much more evidence you want that he both is an actor, is genuine as a Reform supporter, and was not hired for the job.

It was a set up. Why would he speak in a different voice why not just be himself then? He specialises in undercover acting work and rough voices and had previously worked fie Channel 4.

Read this x report from GB presenter Charlie Peters

"There are unevidenced theories floating around - promoted by some journalists - that the Reform volunteer filmed by Channel 4 making racist comments about Rishi Sunak could have been a set-up because he has worked as an actor.

I've spoken to Andrew Parker this morning, he said these theories are total rubbish.

He claims he was goaded by the undercover reporter and that he was making his horrible comments in a "jokey" atmosphere, but absolutely rejects any suggestion that he was a "paid actor" set-up to make Reform look bad."

x.com/CDP1882/status/1806612644792533424

I really don't know how much more evidence you want that he both is an actor, is genuine as a Reform supporter, and was not hired for the job.

Thanks Siope - every day’s a school day! I didn’t know that about the US president.

You don’t often hear Obama, and others, still being referred to as president though - or perhaps they’re just not talked about as much as Trump is🙈

Anyway, when I hear one of his supporters being interviewed and calling him President Trump, I’ll now have to just seethe inwardly🤷‍♀️

Siope

Anyone who believes Parker et al were set up want to have a look at this nice bridge I’m selling? (That was another Parker, funnily enough)

Lizzie all previous US presidents are commonly referred to by the title. It’s technically incorrect in a formal setting (when it should be Mr Lastname if talking to them directly, or Former President Lastname if introducing them or talking about them) but in informal settings people still use Mr President/President Lastname, and that’s become accepted for most occasions. So much as I despise Trump, he’s as entitled to be called President as the other 45.

Of course it was a set up have you watched the YouTube video, anyone with an ounce of intelligence could see this. Why would he not speak in his normal refined voice on the Channel 4 video? He says he specialises in rough voices and undercover work and he had previously worked for Channel 4.

You must really have your head in the sand if you can't see this.

Anyone who believes Parker et al were set up want to have a look at this nice bridge I’m selling? (That was another Parker, funnily enough)

Lizzie all previous US presidents are commonly referred to by the title. It’s technically incorrect in a formal setting (when it should be Mr Lastname if talking to them directly, or Former President Lastname if introducing them or talking about them) but in informal settings people still use Mr President/President Lastname, and that’s become accepted for most occasions. So much as I despise Trump, he’s as entitled to be called President as the other 45.

Iam64

tinaf1 many asylum seekers from Afghanistan supported the US or UK. They couldn’t get out safely because of the haste withdrawal. Starmer knows he can’t negotiate with the Taliban
It may not fit your world view but safe refuge for people fleeing wars is the legal response - not to mention ethics or morals

I am quite aware of the plight of Afghans who have supported the US & UK also the plight of ordinary Afghans especially women thanks very much. So don’t assume to know what fits in my world view until you know what my views on asylum seekers are which you don’t.

LizzieDrip

Farage is moving ever closer to Trump territory, where every challenge or interrogation is seen as a conspiracy against him - even to the point where Trump denied the democratic will of the American people. His supporters still refer to him as President Trump!

At the moment we can, perhaps, dismiss Farage as an irrelevant little no-mark but …
given further power i.e. a seat in the HoC, he could become a danger to democracy. He’ll certainly be a thorn in the side of democracy!

He can't be dismissed though can he that's why the MSM and the establishment are getting worried and playing dirty tricks.

Wyllow3

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13579777/Yes-actor-Reform-campaigner-Activist-filmed-calling-Rishi-P-says-goaded-remarks-claims-racist-hes-Muslim-girlfriends-insists-wasnt-paid-infiltrate-party.html

A Reform UK activist secretly filmed racially abusing Rishi Sunak today admitted he is an actor - but insisted he genuinely campaigns for the party

"'I'm getting phone calls non-stop and it's making me ill to be honest and it's not fair on me. It's really causing me a lot of stress and I really can't stand much more.

'I was set-up, it's as simple as that, the guy was laughing and joking with it all the time. "

Anyone with any intelligence would ask themselves why would he put on a different accent and why out of all the volunteers Channel 4 picked him to follow that day. Even an idiot surely can see it was a set up.

Farage is moving ever closer to Trump territory, where every challenge or interrogation is seen as a conspiracy against him - even to the point where Trump denied the democratic will of the American people. His supporters still refer to him as President Trump!

At the moment we can, perhaps, dismiss Farage as an irrelevant little no-mark but …
given further power i.e. a seat in the HoC, he could become a danger to democracy. He’ll certainly be a thorn in the side of democracy!

Wyllow3

Because Starmer has always used the words "Safe Countries"so when Rishi Sunak mocked him for planning to “sit down with the ayatollahs” to negotiate return agreements it was just a weak attempt to point score.

Perhaps more important is to ask the question why the government has halted any asylum processing due to government’s Rwanda policy

That's months of doing nothing.

I asked the question why another poster derided Farage’s solution as nonsense against Starmers statement to return them to safe or their home countries and Sunak point scoring or not was right to call him out on how he was going to achieve that. Wether he always uses the words safe countries or not he has made a statement and has been called out on it.

Sky News
news.sky.com/story/reform-canvasser-in-pm-racism-row-says-he-was-a-total-fool-13160491#:~:text=He%20has%20also%20used%20reports,goaded%22%20into%20making%20the%20comments.

"A Reform UK canvasser who used a racial slur against Rishi Sunak has called himself a "total fool" and said he has learned his lesson."

Channel 4 comments:

"We met Mr Parker for the first time at Reform UK party headquarters, where he was a Reform party canvasser.

"We did not pay the Reform UK canvasser or anyone else in this report. Mr Parker was not known to Channel 4 News and was filmed covertly via the undercover operation."

The broadcaster's investigation also caught another canvasser describing the Pride flag as "degenerate" and suggesting members of the LGBT community are paedophiles.

Whitewavemark2

I’ve pinched this question from James O’Brian. And to me it is obvious, - they are fascists - talking about replacing the police with paramilitaries and bringing back the death penalty as well as shoot f….g immigrants has huge echoes of 1930s Germany.

So why would you vote for him?

My God, could you be any more insulting?
Talk about tarring everybody with the same brush, it’s disgusting..

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13579777/Yes-actor-Reform-campaigner-Activist-filmed-calling-Rishi-P-says-goaded-remarks-claims-racist-hes-Muslim-girlfriends-insists-wasnt-paid-infiltrate-party.html

A Reform UK activist secretly filmed racially abusing Rishi Sunak today admitted he is an actor - but insisted he genuinely campaigns for the party

"'I'm getting phone calls non-stop and it's making me ill to be honest and it's not fair on me. It's really causing me a lot of stress and I really can't stand much more.

'I was set-up, it's as simple as that, the guy was laughing and joking with it all the time. "

youtube.com/shorts/nXIzs0nue1E?si=cz0-lWxwZI3TCBam

Andrew Parker actor talking about himself and his career in his normal refined talking voice not the rough made up voice on Channel 4.

Oh, guess what. The BBC Question Time audience that gave Farage a bit of a hard time las night was rigged😆

x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1807001136546640200

You'd have to have a heart of stone not to feel a twinge of sympathy for this poor little guy who has all the cards stacked against him

Willow crossed posts - saying more or less what you’ve said