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France Elections. I am an immigrant

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mokryna Mon 01-Jul-24 15:53:15

Do you think Macron is paving the way for the next president, keeping in mind he cannot stand a third period?

He knew how people were thinking, especially after the European elections, therefore, thought it would be better to go to the polls sooner rather than later, while he was still in charge and be able to have some control although limited.

Marie Le Pen thinks her party's 28-year-old leader will have a say over France’s armed forces and the president's powers would be reduced.

Joseann Wed 03-Jul-24 11:56:30

Macron said that Notre Dame would be rebuilt in 5 years and they are on track to meet that deadline. The restoration of Notre Dame has been amazing, all those talented architects and craftsmen from across the country. Chapeau!
DH is a chorister, he has sung on several occasions in Chartres Cathedral but never in Notre Dame. I'm hoping to offer him as a gift a concert in the newly restored cathedral one day.

Callistemon213 Wed 03-Jul-24 12:00:46

Mine was from TK Maxx ?years ago, with matching coaster. My treat to myself but a bit faded now.
Time for a new one, I think. They are expensive but I'm owed a birthday present.

Joseann Wed 03-Jul-24 12:58:01

^The thought of a 28 year old,
inexperienced in life and politics, being Prime Minister
under Nationalists is dire^.

But he might do better than we expect on Sunday. It could be a smart move.
Jordan Bardella is a presentable young man, I think he talks quite well. He may well encourage votes from younger people. I don't think he has been around long enough to have any real dirt dished on him, yet. Also, Marine LePen isn't daft, she doesn't want anyone who will eclipse her in any way.

Mamie Wed 03-Jul-24 15:51:01

Well the RN candidate for Caen has just had to stand down after a photograph of her emerged, wearing a Nazi cap.
Words fail me.

halfpint1 Wed 03-Jul-24 15:58:40

Bardella being young , presentable and young would be
better in Bridgeton than Prime Minister of the country
I live in and if he's only being chosen not to outshine
Marie Le Pen then heaven help us another egotistical
leader looking out for her image.
Makes Starmer look the better choice, dull as you lot
say he is.

Joseann Wed 03-Jul-24 16:17:36

Mamie

Well the RN candidate for Caen has just had to stand down after a photograph of her emerged, wearing a Nazi cap.
Words fail me.

About as much good taste as Prince Harry then, though he wasn't standing for election! Why do they do it?

Joseann Wed 03-Jul-24 16:21:14

Who is you lot halfpint1?

Mamie Wed 03-Jul-24 16:21:17

Joseann

Mamie

Well the RN candidate for Caen has just had to stand down after a photograph of her emerged, wearing a Nazi cap.
Words fail me.

About as much good taste as Prince Harry then, though he wasn't standing for election! Why do they do it?

Especially in Caen, devastated by bombing in 1944.

Joseann Wed 03-Jul-24 16:21:51

Mamie

Joseann

Mamie

Well the RN candidate for Caen has just had to stand down after a photograph of her emerged, wearing a Nazi cap.
Words fail me.

About as much good taste as Prince Harry then, though he wasn't standing for election! Why do they do it?

Especially in Caen, devastated by bombing in 1944.

Oh yes, of course, I hadn't thought of that.

pascal30 Wed 03-Jul-24 16:33:08

Joseann

Mamie

Joseann

Mamie

Well the RN candidate for Caen has just had to stand down after a photograph of her emerged, wearing a Nazi cap.
Words fail me.

About as much good taste as Prince Harry then, though he wasn't standing for election! Why do they do it?

Especially in Caen, devastated by bombing in 1944.

Oh yes, of course, I hadn't thought of that.

It rather indicates their intentions though

halfpint1 Wed 03-Jul-24 18:23:25

Joseann

Who is you lot halfpint1?

The grannetters who live in England and know the politics better than I do

mokryna Wed 03-Jul-24 18:44:19

Sunday was going to be a three cornered fight in my area but now the NFP candidate with 30,08% of the vote, has stepped down. We can but hope their followers will back Macron. 🤞

Joseann Wed 03-Jul-24 18:49:55

halfpint1

Joseann

Who is you lot halfpint1?

The grannetters who live in England and know the politics better than I do

Really?
I've not seen any on this thread. Only those who are interested in, and receptive, to what Gransnetters across the Channel are reporting. mokryna asked the readership what they thought Macron's and LePen's intentions were, and the responses have been thought-provoking. It isn't a competition who knows the politics better.
Sometimes, how leaders are perceived by those not living in the country can throw a great deal of light on a situation.

Joseann Wed 03-Jul-24 18:54:05

By what date do the candidates have to decide if they are going to step down, does anyone know?

Mamie Wed 03-Jul-24 18:55:32

It was Tuesday evening I think.

Joseann Wed 03-Jul-24 18:56:33

Thank you, Mamie. A real race against time.

Mamie Wed 03-Jul-24 18:57:44

This was on Twitter.
"According to 1st poll just released after the 2nd round "stand-downs" and full candidate-list was closed yesterday, Le Pen's Far Right RN doesn't come anywhere near the absolute majority it would need to govern (289 seats)
and is predicted to get only 190 - 220 seats"

Callistemon213 Wed 03-Jul-24 19:03:42

halfpint1

Joseann

Who is you lot halfpint1?

The grannetters who live in England and know the politics better than I do

Do you live in France halfpint?

The thread was started by a Gransnetter who lives in France, I believe, and several others who live in France have also contributed to the thread.

Are those who don't live there not allowed to comment on the apparent move to the right of France and other European countries?

MaizieD Wed 03-Jul-24 20:57:04

Callistemon213

halfpint1

Joseann

Who is you lot halfpint1?

The grannetters who live in England and know the politics better than I do

Do you live in France halfpint?

The thread was started by a Gransnetter who lives in France, I believe, and several others who live in France have also contributed to the thread.

Are those who don't live there not allowed to comment on the apparent move to the right of France and other European countries?

Looking at halfpint's original post, it finishes: ^Makes Starmer look the better choice, dull as you lot
say he is ^

I'm reading that as solely her noting that we people who live in the UK are saying that Starmer is dull.

I don't see it in any way criticising us for commenting on French politics.

MaizieD Wed 03-Jul-24 21:01:09

Sorry, missed this.

I also think that: The grannetters who live in England and know the politics better than I do refers to the comment about Starmer, she's explaining who she means by 'you lot' in that comment.

MaizieD Wed 03-Jul-24 21:03:09

We know more about English politics than fancythat does

(goodness, I'm making a real b*lls up of this😱)

halfpint1 Wed 03-Jul-24 21:31:48

Crikey. If you read all the thread you will see where I live.
I was referring to starmer being a preference even if he is dull, as described on this forum by people who live in england.
How on earth did it get so misunderstood?

Witzend Thu 04-Jul-24 09:14:56

Nasty cynic that I am, I can’t help thinking how the political shenanigans across the channel might at least quieten that tedious cohort that is always banging on about how everything is so much better in France.

Joseann Thu 04-Jul-24 13:06:08

You made me smile, Witzend, (though I might have recognised myself in that category 20 or so years ago!). People bang on about how everything is so much better in France because often they want to justify their decision to having moved there.
I knew English people who had good jobs back home, but in France, they had to resort to working in abattoirs. Or they cleaned gîtes. They would then moan that food was so expensive in France, and that they couldn't afford a ferry trip back home etc. But hey, life is so much better in France! Only if you can afford to live comfortably.

pascal30 Thu 04-Jul-24 15:14:47

As someone whose mother was French, I love France but I think having family and friends there makes a huge difference. I prefer the UK because of all the cultural and artistic options here.. and I believe it is also less expensive here..