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France Elections. I am an immigrant

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mokryna Mon 01-Jul-24 15:53:15

Do you think Macron is paving the way for the next president, keeping in mind he cannot stand a third period?

He knew how people were thinking, especially after the European elections, therefore, thought it would be better to go to the polls sooner rather than later, while he was still in charge and be able to have some control although limited.

Marie Le Pen thinks her party's 28-year-old leader will have a say over France’s armed forces and the president's powers would be reduced.

Mamie Mon 08-Jul-24 11:03:47

Just to reassure anyone who thinks the hard left will prevail in Parliament, Mélenchon and La France Insoumise are very far from being able to take charge. They are part of a broad left alliance, which gained 19 seats more than Macron's party in second place. The negotiations for some sort of coalition will be lengthy and unlikely to involve extremists. Mélenchon was demanding all sorts of things last night and some of the British press seem to have believed him.

Joseann Mon 08-Jul-24 12:47:23

I've just had an incoming message ftom a French friend over there:

Pour Mélenchon, beaucoup de personnes sont outrées de son comportement, il a annoncé beaucoup de choses sans consulté les autres membres.
Pour nous ça va être ingérable, ils veulent tous le pouvoir... et surtout garder leurs idées.

Basically that Mélenchon has been announcing things without consulting the other members.
And that it will be unmanageable because they all want power and all want to hang onto their own ideas.

Joseann Mon 08-Jul-24 12:48:53

PS there's grammar mistakes in her message! Not mine!

Joseann Mon 08-Jul-24 13:00:40

PPS .. there ARE grammar mistakes. My bad!

Curtaintwitcher Mon 08-Jul-24 17:43:45

Eloethan

People must have short memories. You would think, having been occupied by the Nazis and seeing the atrocities committed against minority populations, French people would be a lot more careful about who they vote for.

Yes, I agree. The experiences during the last war will have made many French people wary of voting for the right wing. Certainly no-one wants a repeat of what the Nazis did but, at the same time, immigration has got out of control.
I think this election should act as a wake-up call to all European leaders....'get a grip'.
'Freedom of movement' should have been purely for Europeans within Europe, not an open invitation for outsiders to come in.

Dinahmo Mon 08-Jul-24 18:34:28

My village has a population of 638 and a resident Brit population of 11 at the moment. So we have to be able to speak French. Sometimes it's difficult because some people want to speak English, such as our doctor and our vet.

It's not been helped by both bars/restaurants being closed - one for 9 months and the other for 6 months.

halfpint1 Mon 08-Jul-24 19:02:14

As much as immigration is a problem to the Uk so it is to the rest of Europe. However the British media seem to portray it as
Only happening there. The strengthening of the far right demonstrates the depth of anger in France.

Oreo Mon 08-Jul-24 19:12:13

Well quite halfpint1 people everywhere are worried about massive amounts of immigration. Here in the UK tho, a lot of people label anyone who’s worried about it as ‘racists’.
Maybe things are different in France.

Joseann Tue 09-Jul-24 06:47:59

I don't understand how, when parties engineer a win by coming together, that they can't then find a balance in working together. From what I am reading in French newspapers this morning, they are bringing about their own downfall. I assume the saving grace is that Macron can at least choose his own Prime Minister, though that will no doubt create tensions too.

Galaxy Tue 09-Jul-24 06:50:34

I would guess because they were united in their hatred of their opponent but united in little else.

Joseann Tue 09-Jul-24 07:01:09

Yes well put Galaxy.

Also, if France does now bring their retirement age back to 60, doesn't that show that some Brexit leavers had a point about disparity amongst EU members?
Nothing at all to do with racism.

Freya5 Tue 09-Jul-24 08:53:41

Oreo

Well quite halfpint1 people everywhere are worried about massive amounts of immigration. Here in the UK tho, a lot of people label anyone who’s worried about it as ‘racists’.
Maybe things are different in France.

Have just listened to the spectators journalist, who lives in France, any there who voted for Le PEN also gets the same abuse, so no different, in fact worse,
Just watching the thugs rioting in Paris, people who voted for Le Pen were told "we're coming for you".

Joseann Tue 09-Jul-24 09:03:01

I don't approve of rioting, but in France it has always been so. And yes, worse than in the UK.