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mokryna Mon 01-Jul-24 15:53:15

Do you think Macron is paving the way for the next president, keeping in mind he cannot stand a third period?

He knew how people were thinking, especially after the European elections, therefore, thought it would be better to go to the polls sooner rather than later, while he was still in charge and be able to have some control although limited.

Marie Le Pen thinks her party's 28-year-old leader will have a say over France’s armed forces and the president's powers would be reduced.

Joseann Wed 03-Jul-24 18:49:55

halfpint1

Joseann

Who is you lot halfpint1?

The grannetters who live in England and know the politics better than I do

Really?
I've not seen any on this thread. Only those who are interested in, and receptive, to what Gransnetters across the Channel are reporting. mokryna asked the readership what they thought Macron's and LePen's intentions were, and the responses have been thought-provoking. It isn't a competition who knows the politics better.
Sometimes, how leaders are perceived by those not living in the country can throw a great deal of light on a situation.

mokryna Wed 03-Jul-24 18:44:19

Sunday was going to be a three cornered fight in my area but now the NFP candidate with 30,08% of the vote, has stepped down. We can but hope their followers will back Macron. 🀞

halfpint1 Wed 03-Jul-24 18:23:25

Joseann

Who is you lot halfpint1?

The grannetters who live in England and know the politics better than I do

pascal30 Wed 03-Jul-24 16:33:08

Joseann

Mamie

Joseann

Mamie

Well the RN candidate for Caen has just had to stand down after a photograph of her emerged, wearing a Nazi cap.
Words fail me.

About as much good taste as Prince Harry then, though he wasn't standing for election! Why do they do it?

Especially in Caen, devastated by bombing in 1944.

Oh yes, of course, I hadn't thought of that.

It rather indicates their intentions though

Joseann Wed 03-Jul-24 16:21:51

Mamie

Joseann

Mamie

Well the RN candidate for Caen has just had to stand down after a photograph of her emerged, wearing a Nazi cap.
Words fail me.

About as much good taste as Prince Harry then, though he wasn't standing for election! Why do they do it?

Especially in Caen, devastated by bombing in 1944.

Oh yes, of course, I hadn't thought of that.

Mamie Wed 03-Jul-24 16:21:17

Joseann

Mamie

Well the RN candidate for Caen has just had to stand down after a photograph of her emerged, wearing a Nazi cap.
Words fail me.

About as much good taste as Prince Harry then, though he wasn't standing for election! Why do they do it?

Especially in Caen, devastated by bombing in 1944.

Joseann Wed 03-Jul-24 16:21:14

Who is you lot halfpint1?

Joseann Wed 03-Jul-24 16:17:36

Mamie

Well the RN candidate for Caen has just had to stand down after a photograph of her emerged, wearing a Nazi cap.
Words fail me.

About as much good taste as Prince Harry then, though he wasn't standing for election! Why do they do it?

halfpint1 Wed 03-Jul-24 15:58:40

Bardella being young , presentable and young would be
better in Bridgeton than Prime Minister of the country
I live in and if he's only being chosen not to outshine
Marie Le Pen then heaven help us another egotistical
leader looking out for her image.
Makes Starmer look the better choice, dull as you lot
say he is.

Mamie Wed 03-Jul-24 15:51:01

Well the RN candidate for Caen has just had to stand down after a photograph of her emerged, wearing a Nazi cap.
Words fail me.

Joseann Wed 03-Jul-24 12:58:01

^The thought of a 28 year old,
inexperienced in life and politics, being Prime Minister
under Nationalists is dire^.

But he might do better than we expect on Sunday. It could be a smart move.
Jordan Bardella is a presentable young man, I think he talks quite well. He may well encourage votes from younger people. I don't think he has been around long enough to have any real dirt dished on him, yet. Also, Marine LePen isn't daft, she doesn't want anyone who will eclipse her in any way.

Callistemon213 Wed 03-Jul-24 12:00:46

Mine was from TK Maxx ?years ago, with matching coaster. My treat to myself but a bit faded now.
Time for a new one, I think. They are expensive but I'm owed a birthday present.

Joseann Wed 03-Jul-24 11:56:30

Macron said that Notre Dame would be rebuilt in 5 years and they are on track to meet that deadline. The restoration of Notre Dame has been amazing, all those talented architects and craftsmen from across the country. Chapeau!
DH is a chorister, he has sung on several occasions in Chartres Cathedral but never in Notre Dame. I'm hoping to offer him as a gift a concert in the newly restored cathedral one day.

Dinahmo Wed 03-Jul-24 11:55:27

Callistemon213 i wouldn't dare. our mugs are plain white from the local supermarket. Easily replaced when they are broken, which is frequent.

Callistemon213 Wed 03-Jul-24 11:51:06

When we mentioned that we'd made a special trip to see Macintosh's work they expressed surprise that we had heard of him. Surely anyone interested in art and architecture would know about and his contemporaries?
I've just drunk my coffee from a Rennie Mackintosh design mug Dinahmo

Dinahmo Wed 03-Jul-24 11:49:15

There is a large divide between those living in cities or large towns and those living in the countryside. When we moved to rural Suffolk we only ever saw white faces whereas in Ipswich there are about 10 ethnic minorities living in and around the town.

In London in the 60s and 70s there was a wide range of food shops and restaurants of other nations which were enjoyed by everyone.

Callistemon213 Wed 03-Jul-24 11:47:55

Joseann

Mamie

Joseann

I was just wondering about this, (a bit off topic), but I think the somewhat heavy spicing in a curry would have to be toned down for the French palate to really enjoy it. Their taste beds are very refined, and I think they prefer more subtle flavours using herbs and creams.

Think I would go with "their taste buds are very limited!" πŸ˜‚

True, but very refined where wine is concerned!

Wine doesn't really go with curry, does it?

The Germans like Currywurst.

Wine doesn't really go with curry, does it?

Years ago I went to an Indian restaurant with work colleagues and one was astonished when I ordered red wine to go with my curry. 😯
"Only lager with curry, Calli, what is the matter with you?" 😁
He did try it and thought that it might just be acceptable.

halfpint1 Wed 03-Jul-24 11:47:06

Galaxy

I am afraid Macrons character is not particularly strong, his behaviour reflects that. He is unable to believe that he will not win.

I agree with Mamie, Macron is a strong clever man but not
liked by the English Media. The thought of a 28 year old,
inexperienced in life and politics, being Prime Minister
under Nationalists is dire
Whenever I have heard/seen Marie Le Pen she has come
across as a practical and likeable person. However her politics
do the opposite. Shame she isn't on the other side.
Macron was facing a non supportive government anyhow
so he probably has a plan of action whatever happens, he's
not as stupid as the media likes to paint him.
For what its worth I've been in France over 30 years and
would vote him the best President I've lived under.
Sarkosy, Holland, Mitterand , Chirac, oh la la .

Shinamae Wed 03-Jul-24 11:43:44

Curtaintwitcher

The majority of politicians have their own agenda and ignore the wishes of the people. Then they get a shock when voters are given the chance to express how they feel. This is what has happened in France.
Condemning people as Nazis because they don't want their culture diluted by immigrants is an insult. That applies right across Europe and Britain too. We don't want a mono-culture, we enjoy having our own identity. Those in power need to start realising that and stop forcing their own ideals on us.

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Dinahmo Wed 03-Jul-24 11:40:03

Here in the Dordogne it's confit and magret de canard. Both of which I like but it does get boring. The two restaurants/bars in my village have recently reopened after renovations following the floods earlier in the year. Both have those two dishes on the menu and not much else.

The French are brought up to believe that they are the best at everything. If you show any knowledge about French life or history and so on they are often surprised.

In some ways the Scots are a bit like that too. Over 50 years ago we discovered Charles Rennie Macintosh at an exhibition and we went on to visit the School of Art and other Macintosh locations. We were shown his water colours and those of the Glasgow Girls which were kept in architect chests. The furniture was piled on top of the cabinets. 40 years later we were on a holiday which included some Scots. When we mentioned that we'd made a special trip to see Macintosh's work they expressed surprise that we had heard of him. Surely anyone interested in art and architecture would know about and his contemporaries?

Unlike the Scots however, and the current state of the School of Art, the French do get somethings right. Macron said that Notre Dame would be rebuilt in 5 years and they are on track to meet that deadline.

Joseann Wed 03-Jul-24 11:23:03

Mamie

Joseann

I was just wondering about this, (a bit off topic), but I think the somewhat heavy spicing in a curry would have to be toned down for the French palate to really enjoy it. Their taste beds are very refined, and I think they prefer more subtle flavours using herbs and creams.

Think I would go with "their taste buds are very limited!" πŸ˜‚

True, but very refined where wine is concerned!

Wine doesn't really go with curry, does it?

The Germans like Currywurst.

MaizieD Wed 03-Jul-24 11:17:22

Clearly nothing had been learnt from history by some people

I don't think that people ever do 'learn from history'. They think they're better than their forebears and can't possibly be fooled again.

Besides which, I very much doubt if there are many people voting for the RN who were actually alive during the Nazi occupation of France.

And history gets rewritten...

MaizieD Wed 03-Jul-24 11:11:50

We're not plutocrats, we have a share in a holiday home in Normandy. πŸ˜€ Been there most years for 30+ years now..

I really like France and I enjoy French food, but it doesn't have the diversity of cuisines that Britain offers. We did go to a local restaurant this spring which offered Thai prawns as a starter but then, the waitress was Thai so I suspect she was probably involved in the business and had a hand in planning the menu.

It was Mamie lamenting the lack of Brinjal pickle that set me thinking about this one aspect of immigration that Britain has really profited from.

Mamie Wed 03-Jul-24 11:10:43

Joseann

I was just wondering about this, (a bit off topic), but I think the somewhat heavy spicing in a curry would have to be toned down for the French palate to really enjoy it. Their taste beds are very refined, and I think they prefer more subtle flavours using herbs and creams.

Think I would go with "their taste buds are very limited!" πŸ˜‚

Mamie Wed 03-Jul-24 11:07:50

Oreo

Do you have a holiday home in Normandy MaizieD? Lucky you if so.The fish dishes we have had there in the past were amazingly good.
Eloethan I know what you mean but very few people think about the war now except on certain days as you have to be quite ancient to have lived through it as an adult.

Except that the D-Day Ceremonies which had huge coverage on French TV were just a few days before the big French vote for the far right in the European elections.
Clearly nothing had been learnt from history by some people.