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Anyone else feel a sense of impending doom that we’ll have a Labour government tomorrow?

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Kandinsky Thu 04-Jul-24 07:38:24

I’d like to feel optimistic that things will improve I really would - I was pleased Blair got in in 97, but this feels different some how?
I’m kind of dreading the next - god knows how many years - under Labour.
Oh well.

Doodledog Fri 05-Jul-24 23:02:39

MayBee70

….I don’t think she was being serious…..

I thought that at first, but then got worried. There is so much scaremongering and disinformation just now that anything’s possible.

Oreo Fri 05-Jul-24 23:07:16

Monica and others, it was a very obvious joke.

Doodledog Fri 05-Jul-24 23:11:24

Good. 😎. I’ll call off the emergency services then. Honestly- the past week or so has been traumatic on here one way or another.

M0nica Sat 06-Jul-24 18:35:26

But others have expressed very similar views quite seriously.

Given the Conservatives entirely negative election campaign was based on trying to frighten people out of voting Labour by promising doom and disaster, it is inevitable that some will have fallen for it, so voted Reform smile. So my response was quite reasonable.

Doodledog Sat 06-Jul-24 19:30:07

That's why I was concerned after first thinking the post was in jest. It's not always easy to tell from text.

varian Sat 06-Jul-24 19:32:06

Farage may not be stupid but he is a charlatan. He became an MEP to act as an irritant at best and at worst a wrecking ball.

He and his fellow brexiters were outrageously rude, literly turning their backs on the chamber like silly badly behaved children.

He was the UK representative on the EU Fishing Committee and only attended one meeting out of 42. This explains why the UK fishermen got a raw deal. So many of them were conned by him and now regret it.

www.politico.eu/article/brexit-fisheries-uk-industry-betrayal/

M0nica Sat 06-Jul-24 21:56:01

Farage is nihilistic, he is only interested in destroying things, not in rebuilding or inspiring. As Varian illustrates he wanted brexit, but was not prepared to do anything to facilitate our exit from the EU or negotiate satisfactory terms for groups most likely to suffer as a result.

He could have been the eponymous lifeboat that goes and rescues fisherman and those at sea when they are in danger of death, instead he left the lifeboat rotting in its shed, stood down the crew and went off for a pint and a fag with his cronies. leaving the fishermen rudderless in a storm.

Casdon Sat 06-Jul-24 22:11:44

I raised a wry smile at Boris Johnson’s description of Farage - the Pied Piper of Clacton.

Chestnut Sat 06-Jul-24 23:49:04

Casdon

*Dinamho*, this thread is the current safe space of disaffected Tory voters who haven’t yet faced up to the horror of the position they find themselves in. Migrants are deeemd to be fair game for having a go at Labour when you don’t currently have my other tools in your chest. It’s best just to let them get on with it in peace.

It seems your words were meaningless and this thread is no longer that safe space. The anti Farage brigade has struck again! Why does every thread have to be taken over by Farage bashers? It's getting tiresome and boringly repetitive.

MayBee70 Sun 07-Jul-24 00:14:41

Probably because people who are terrified of the thought of a Labour government don’t seem to understand how equally horrified many of us feel at the thought of Farage and his party becoming the main party of opposition or, even worse, the party in power.

Huia Sun 07-Jul-24 00:15:46

I’m worried about the US election which will surely affect us all -yet we get no vote!

mae13 Sun 07-Jul-24 00:29:03

No, not at all. And you must be one of a (fortunately) vanishing breed. A miserable Tory/Farage acolyte.

nanna8 Sun 07-Jul-24 01:42:29

I think Farage and his ilk will actually be good for the Labour Party because otherwise they would be totally unopposed and have a green light to do whatever they want. He at least will be another voice with another point of view. The pathetic Conservatives won’t be much chop at all, they can’t even agree amongst themselves.

MayBee70 Sun 07-Jul-24 02:15:00

If he's so great you can have him then....

Whitewavemark2 Sun 07-Jul-24 03:10:59

Farage is a hollow loud man. What is it they say about empty vessels?

BigMamma Sun 07-Jul-24 03:31:06

Kandinsky

I’d like to feel optimistic that things will improve I really would - I was pleased Blair got in in 97, but this feels different some how?
I’m kind of dreading the next - god knows how many years - under Labour.
Oh well.

I have given up hope of any government doing what they promised to do when they were canvassing before the election. Once they are in power, they do what they want and we cannot do a thing about it until the next general election comes along.

BigMamma Sun 07-Jul-24 03:33:00

nanna8

I think Farage and his ilk will actually be good for the Labour Party because otherwise they would be totally unopposed and have a green light to do whatever they want. He at least will be another voice with another point of view. The pathetic Conservatives won’t be much chop at all, they can’t even agree amongst themselves.

I agree with you. Farage thinks the same way as many people do and says it as it is. I was impressed with him on I'm a Celebrity and agreed with everything he said.

BigMamma Sun 07-Jul-24 03:36:07

Chestnut

Casdon

Dinamho, this thread is the current safe space of disaffected Tory voters who haven’t yet faced up to the horror of the position they find themselves in. Migrants are deeemd to be fair game for having a go at Labour when you don’t currently have my other tools in your chest. It’s best just to let them get on with it in peace.

It seems your words were meaningless and this thread is no longer that safe space. The anti Farage brigade has struck again! Why does every thread have to be taken over by Farage bashers? It's getting tiresome and boringly repetitive.

I totally agree, I am too fed up of the Farage bashers. I voted for him and think he would make a great Prime minister as he says it how it is and does not fumble about when speaking.

Some of the posters on the forum seem to get quite annoyed when someone actually states they like Farage and voted for him. We all have our own opinions and I would never get annoyed with someone who said they had voted for Labour or the Conservatives, we all are entitled to our own point of view.

nanna8 Sun 07-Jul-24 05:40:26

I don’t agree with Farage more often than not but I can see he is a very,very good speaker and he has a personality which is more than you can say for most of them. I’d welcome him here with open arms because our lot are very wishy washy. People like to be in their comfort zone but he challenges that and good for him. I think he is very patriotic unlike many of his opposition.

David49 Sun 07-Jul-24 06:19:26

“I totally agree, I am too fed up of the Farage bashers. I voted for him and think he would make a great Prime minister as he says it how it is and does not fumble about when speaking.”

The problem with Farage is that he can say whatever outrageous thing he wants without any consequences, he is never going to have any political power.
The easily led voters believe his ideas but as we found with Brexit in the real world cannot be achieved.

nanna8 Sun 07-Jul-24 06:46:11

He got Brexit through though, didn’t he ? We were amazed when that happened, totally amazed , thought the UK had gone mad but watching him now I understand all too well. Wait and see- things will be different with him around. Maybe better, maybe worse but they will change.

Casdon Sun 07-Jul-24 07:13:25

Chestnut

Casdon

Dinamho, this thread is the current safe space of disaffected Tory voters who haven’t yet faced up to the horror of the position they find themselves in. Migrants are deeemd to be fair game for having a go at Labour when you don’t currently have my other tools in your chest. It’s best just to let them get on with it in peace.

It seems your words were meaningless and this thread is no longer that safe space. The anti Farage brigade has struck again! Why does every thread have to be taken over by Farage bashers? It's getting tiresome and boringly repetitive.

Disaffected Tory voters are not all Farage fans Chestnut? If you follow the politics threads you will know that not by any means all of the posters who express concerns about Farage or comment on threads are supporters of Labour either, it’s just a cross section of the Gransnet community, which is a subset of the voting public. A cluster of comments in support of one ideology is the best it ever gets for that group of supporters until somebody with an opposing view steps in.

Quokka Sun 07-Jul-24 08:30:45

Poppyred

Yes! People have such short memories…….the last Labour government ruined this country for ever.

What planet are you on? You clearly know nothing about how Labour supported education and the NHS.

Ruined the country for ever!!!! You certainly bought into that guff didn’t you?

Quokka Sun 07-Jul-24 08:35:16

And as for Farage……so he’s ’coming for Labour’!

He and his little gang of 4? 🤣

And if there’s anything this country does NOT need it’s more conflict and lies. What happened to working together to improve things?

Anniebach Sun 07-Jul-24 08:41:02

George Galloway when he became an MP ssid *we coming for
Labour’