Anyone else feel a sense of impending doom that we’ll have a Labour government tomorrow?

NO impending doom here!

I feel optimistic and hopeful😀

Bring it on👏👏👏

And Angela Rayner has set up a domain "Angela 4 PM"

I'm 63 and feel that way too M0nica .

No doom here. No glee or excitement either.

Que sera, sera

Sparklefizz

And Angela Rayner has set up a domain "Angela 4 PM"

😄😄

Let me guess

Daily Mail by any chance?

Smileless2012

I'm 63 and feel that way too M0nica .

I'm with M0nica as well. If I cry for a month over a new Labour government, it won't change the way of the world, so why get het up?
I wasn't even going to vote a few weeks ago, but I'll show up and do my bit. Then carry on as usual with my pleasant life.

Whitewavemark2

Sparklefizz

And Angela Rayner has set up a domain "Angela 4 PM"

😄😄

Let me guess

Daily Mail by any chance?

As the media are not allowed to produce any propaganda on election day, this is what it is.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rQxorVNADA
Expect a lot more of the same over the next few months.

Sparklefizz

And Angela Rayner has set up a domain "Angela 4 PM"

TwobDaily Fail columnists claim (correctly in one case, I can’t be bothered to check all three) that those domain names are registered. There is nothing to say Rayner set them up (as the Mail article eventually gets round to admitting).

I agree with MOnica. Labour is not much different to the Tories these days so there won't be much change.

I do feel that Sir Keir Starmer will give it his best shot. The country needs to find a new identity and direction if it is going to succeed in the long term.

We won't have a Labour govt tomorrow. Whatever Starmer calls it, it bears no relationship to the Labour party I have supported for years. I will just wait to see what he really has in mind, what else could I do

Huge relief at the departure of the Tories. They have run the country into the ground and it will take a long time to get it back on track because there is so much that needs to be done.

What I fail to understand is why so many people still support them, as evidenced on here. I can only guess that they haven't been affected by the policies of the last 14 years.

My husband, for the first time, is refusing to vote! I'm off on my own as women died for my vote.
Nothing will change - it rarely does.

MEN!!!!!

I was thinking about not voting too Joseann but like you I'll show up and do my bit", thankful that we live in a country where we are free to do so.

It doesn't matter which party is in power, they'll do some things that we (as individuals) agree with and some things we don't.

It's time we had a change. But I always see a change of government as giving us a different group of people to moan about.

I just wonder what comedians will do! The Conservatives have been their main fodder for years

if this thread was an election, I would have won!

At the weekend Maurice Saatchi, the advertising guru who handled the Conservative advertising for many years was saying that, in general. the Conservatives were seen as competent, but nasty and Labour as incompetent but caring, but in this election the Conservatives are seen as incompetent and nasty.

The electorate, as a whole, is centrist and do not like parties that stray too far, that is why the Labour party have had their biggest losses when they have left windg leaders, whether Michael Foot or Jeremy Corbyn.

yggdrasil, if I may say so, your views of what Labour should be, as an enthusiastic Labour party member, are actually irrelevant. The only policies of the Labour party that matter are the ones that the electorate, the vast majority of whom do not belong to any political party, are prepared to vote for. That is why Labour under Corbyn was such a disaster. And why Tony Blair, and, no doubt, Keir Starmer, will succeed. There is nothing wrong with the kind of Labour party I suspect you want, you just have to accept that it is probably unelectable.

The Conservatives have always been far more pragmatic and tailor their policies to the electorate, not the zealots in their party. That is why they have, generally, been more successfull.

However, this last Conservative government are best compared with the Labour under Corbyn. They have let the lunatics take over the mad house and have pandered to their extreme right wing.

The reason is what is known as a 'black swan event' An event that no one could forecast - and that black swan is called Nigel Farage. Reform would be nothing without him. he made a name for himself over Brexit and has been careering wildly through the political world since like an out of control car. One moment he is of no relevance at all, the next moment he is a deal maker, then he is irrelevant - and so in in infinitum.

The Conservative response has been to try and second guess him and be more Reform than Reform. They should have held fast and ignored him. As they will see n this election, most voters hold the middle ground and that is who they should have tailored their policies for.

Well explained MOnica. I think that Keir Starmer is honourable and has the best interests of people at heart. It will take a very long time to undo the damage the Tories have done to the UK. I hope he gets time to do it.
Even as a pensioner, I would pay a bit more tax to put things right, provided the rich pay their share too.

I don’t expect miracles

There won’t be any.

I remember the day after Blair won the election in 1997 and feeling an overwhelming sense of optimism after the years of Thatcher and those following. I don't feel like that (and won't tomorrow), even though I think the last 14 years (well, last 9 years at least) have been far worse than the Thatcher years. Starmer has had to occupy some of the ground vacated by centrist Conservatives and I'm not overly optimistic that he'll do anything very radical, but he will still be many many times better than the last shower.

PS. I've just voted Labour for only the second time in a general election.

Is Labour the favourite to beat Kemi, growstuff?.

(Yes, I know it's a very long shot)

Good post Monica.
I have no faith that Labour will undo any damage that has been inflicted by the Conservatives Nannytopsy, in fact I think it likely that over the term of the next parliament they will inflict further damage. Like the Blair/Brown government did.

Boz

My husband, for the first time, is refusing to vote! I'm off on my own as women died for my vote.
Nothing will change - it rarely does.

Boz my husband has repeatedly said he’s not going to vote in this election. I’m still trying to persuade him to go with me when I go to vote. His reason? Nothing will change.

The other day I asked a young relative, a student doctor, who’s just finished her 3rd year, whether she was going to vote (for the first time).

No, because she hadn’t got around to registering.
I can’t help wondering how many students would say the same.